Originally Posted by LadyCroft
I'm not really sure how Lawls claim can be tested other than a vig shooting at him or the cop copping him.
Any townie can use their role on him and if they get "no results" back then it proves his claim. For example a tracker could track him and if they get "no results" rather than "he went no where" or "he targeted x" then his claim is legit. I've never seen a scum ascetic so I'm inclined to believe the claim. It can easily be proven false if he's lying so I don't see why he'd claim that if he were scum. Something simpler like VT would have been a much safer claim. And I wasn't suggesting that the cop waste their role on him. Oh yeah, that reminds me, lol @ the cop being outed on day 1. I didn't take what he said literally as others did. I think he said he could see if someone was morgan freeman or not just to hint at his role and wasn't meant in a literal sense.
The only way I see Lawls claiming Ascetic as scum is if they have a Jailkeeper and they intend to use that role on him for at least the first couple of nights. Now, based on his overall play up to this point, I'm thinking he's town Lawls and this isn't the case. His scum team would likely have someone else they'd want to protect using that role so I don't think they'd want him to claim Ascetic even if they had a Jailkeeper.
Originally Posted by LadyCroft
I'm not overly suspect of anyone other than Lawls yet, Mikey. Lawls has lied twice now about his role. I don't like it.
Lying about being nk-immune is something town Lawls would do. It's totally consistent with his town meta. He does that kind of stuff all the time as town. In his attempts to outsmart the mafia he confuses the hell out of town and nearly or usually gets himself killed in the process, lol. Like when he claimed busdriver in Christmas mafia and said he could busdrive himself with nobody so he was basically NK-Immune.
Originally Posted by Showtime
yeah, like many others because he lied several times about his role and said he was basically immune to all night roles. sorry for thinking that was a little absurd.
idgaf, tbf. what teams waste rolecops on me anyways when they usually end up killing me on night 1 or 2? it's pointless. my claiming early helped no one, it just saved time from the inevitable, which you and titania don't seem to realize for whatever stupid reason.
when? BE SPECIFIC otherwise I'll have you lynched for annoying me. I already told you stop making half points and you did it again. in any case, Im going to lol at when you say I'm fearful as I'm not even fearful of looking scummy as scum. I've never been lynched without info before and have talked my way out of most situations so why exactly should I be fearful and of who as scum?
do you know what my second post was after I claimed? here I'll show you.
I literally explained why I did it right after doing it and yet you and titania still feel the need to pester me about it. it was a neutral move like IMPULSE said that has nothing to do with my alignment as I would do it as both town and scum.
now if you have any legit accusations please present them otherwise kindly fuck off. am I mad? no, but I am highly annoyed; titania has done this several times to me as town and she's ridiculous persistent and stubborn.
It's not my fault that you do things that I perceive as scummy and you don't have an obvious town mode like Shepard. If you're wondering about my alignment, here's a hint, have I ever done this to you when I was scum and you were town?
Originally Posted by Showtime
I'm not angry, nov, just frustrated and annoyed. You'll understand one day, when you reach that TIER 1 STATUS and everyone is out to catch you regardless of your alignment just to say they did it.
cp's trolling you brah, I'd recommend not taking him so seriously.
someone gets it.
I come after you because I think you're scum. I don't randomly try to lynch you or any other power players because I want to brag that I've caught any of you.
Originally Posted by Ziggler Mark
seeing as lawls isnt going to be lynched at this point, you could always push your case on Titania, no?
Any game I've played since I started has had the actor as town-aligned. Claiming first post is new to me, but Magic reads town to me right now.
Although I'm wondering why someone with the Actor role didnt take the time to do a vote count before making his vote that would be a hammer. Magic, did you do a vote count, or just assume he was close to hammer?
shepard makes a comment about not getting rid of him, even if we wanted to, and he reads as absolutely town to you?
This interaction seems fake.
I still dont think this is Taylor confirming anything, only that he wont modkill if you post images from PMs. Lawls still faked a PR
at the beginning of the game and quickly abandoned it.
No one should assume someone is town based on a claim...what about assuming someone else is town based on a less-than-town post of "you couldnt get rid of me if you wanted to"?
This actually makes alot of sense, but I'm still going to be leery of Lawls, just because faking a PR
recently is a scum-associated act. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, because that reaction to the "hammer" seemed legit.
do you have a reason other than "you're a good actor"? I can't see anything scum about Magic right now aside from his usual "you suck, ziggler"
I was a scum actor in Christmas Mafia and the last regular sized game Pez ran so I see it as a role that can go either way as most roles are. What makes you think Magic is town?
Ziggler, the obvious town read I gave on Shepard was based on his overall play up to that point, not just on that one post he made. I've played a lot of games with him and I feel like he's in obvious town mode, playing to his town meta, not holding anything back. There's a genuineness and openness to his posts that isn't there when he's non-town.
Yeah, I agree, definitely judge players based on their play first and foremost. Again, you misunderstood the basis of my read and that's something that town Shep would say. He likes to scare off scum when he's town in an attempt to survive since non-town like to kill him early in games.
If Magic is scum the tells will be very subtle, esp. on day 1. I think he could be scum with him claiming his role in his first post when he shouldn't have even done it because I perceived fear behind that move, fear of being seen as suspicious later for not claiming right away. Even though he says he's not afraid of anything or anyone, there is definitely the fear in him of being caught like anyone else, whether he'll admit it or not. He likes to seem extremely pro-town when he's scum and is more careful with his appearance as scum. Also I didn't like how he went from believing Taylor had confirmed Lawls as town to trying to kill him after he claimed a role that could easily be tested. Tomorrow when I get home from work I need to look over that wagon. Lawls lying about being NK-Immune made the claim less believable, but I'd think town Magic would see that the claim could easily be tested and not try to kill him. It felt like he was pushing for Lawls' death because it was a great opportunity to get rid of an NK-Immune townie.