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Old 02-02-2013, 10:03 AM   #1511 (permalink)
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Pretty sure Rising is scum. I've got a multi-quote coming with thoughts on Obby
Sure? without any explanation I mean i have been townish as much as possible in this game if you can't read me as town in this game then I would say you really will hard time reading me in others

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I wouldn't get the GF to claim watcher if there was one in my team, either. It's very poor long term play.
Well maybe but dosn't prove anything

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I was obvioously trying to trick him into claiming dayvig as a DaySK. I kind of thought it was way too obvious, though.

Seems like Obby tracked Champ, though. Champ didn't deny visiting me, right? Don't like people asking him why he did it, though. Doesn't seem like it'd be useful - there are definitely reasons to visit your top suspect.


(Tracker with Ninja isn't as bad as tracker is weak whereas watcher is super strong so having it negate a tracker would be dumb. Why not claim tracker then, though? )
I am saying from quite sometime if they have they have tracker because obby claimed a tracker result If he got watcher result surely he would surely have posted it and when people asked why he used it champ he would clearly recognized he used on you not champ

Conclusion : the team has tracker , they don't have watcher I believe they probably told him get the watcher out or maybe there was some miscommunication
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Old 02-02-2013, 10:08 AM   #1512 (permalink)
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the way he presented it in his first post could have been a tracker result.

he said champ visited faraday iirc which reads like a tracker result.

it could actually go either way, it screams tracker to me b/c that result is fairly predictable. it could be a guess result.
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i doubt any experience scum would let him claim watcher unless they had one or had to reason to believe that it wasn't in the game.

sometimes you can't stop people from claiming.

i tried to get kenny to change his character claim but he didn't wait and got caught by the worst player of all time. i threw a tantrum when damage claimed the role that causes consecutive nights when he got killed. that claim altered everything as you had to kill around his claim.
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i'm leaving. playing mafia by myself isn't that fun.

hey nov, what's your thought on king kenny?
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Well maybe but dosn't prove anything
"proving", anything in mafia is hard. It's at least an accurate description of the way I play, and thus more likely to be through. Given the amount I've been posting it's reasonable to assume I'm active as hell in a scumtopic and thus on top of things, no? At the very least Obby is newb enough that I think he'd seek guidance in his qt.

I don't see any of the "controlling" experienced players being scum. (For instance DocBlue and Titania I think would advise him better, whereas someone like IMPULSE might not give a fuck). (Actually Titania is quite passive at times, but eh) (DocBlue's probably not ring aligned, at any rate.) sXe's trap looks genuine too, not sure he'd feel the need to make it was he ring aligned.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:00 AM   #1516 (permalink)
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Daykilling scum, Nk scum, Vig as kills? Eh. I still think the scum kill at night and it's an SK killing during the day. Simply b/c unless the daykilling team are smaller then killing during the day is a massive advantage. It's instantaneous + there are obviously more nightroles in the game.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:34 AM   #1517 (permalink)
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I wouldn't get the GF to claim watcher if there was one in my team, either. It's very poor long term play.
This is the main reason I doubt it. I still also doubt that the watcher is Ring aligned but it was still a bad claim and there are a few players who I doubt would allow that to happen, but i'd need to take another look at who was on at the time because he may have been alone in the QT. I think you were actually on at the time of the claim. Has Champ confirmed that he visited Fap?

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Was the ninja kill a Godfather perk or a group perk? I suppose it can be read either way. If so, I suppose it's possible he was a watcher trying to out the watcher - and he tracked CHAMP to me. Watcher/Ninja on the same team does make very little sense as someone said.

edit: should read "his team have no watcher, trying to out a watcher". They prob have a tracker though?
It reads like their team makes ninja kills but their GF was NK immune.

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I was obvioously trying to trick him into claiming dayvig as a DaySK. I kind of thought it was way too obvious, though.

Seems like Obby tracked Champ, though. Champ didn't deny visiting me, right? Don't like people asking him why he did it, though. Doesn't seem like it'd be useful - there are definitely reasons to visit your top suspect.


(Tracker with Ninja isn't as bad as tracker is weak whereas watcher is super strong so having it negate a tracker would be dumb. Why not claim tracker then, though? )
Precisely, the whole thing makes no sense. Pretty certain that team is inexperienced or their better players weren't active at the time. It could have been a JOAT too but you run into the same problem.

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hey doc give me insight on how you read jokes in posts from different player. i find the read on clover interesting.
I can't let you in on my thought process because I don't really know why certain posts strike me as odd when others don't. CP's joking around seems town to me, although he could be playing up to his last town performance. Clover's just came off awkward and remind me more of his posting in his first scum game. I'm sure he'll point out that after that game I went through a period of tunneling him for that reason but those 'jokes' seemed out of place, I dunno that probably doesn't make sense but yeah...

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Sure? without any explanation I mean i have been townish as much as possible in this game if you can't read me as town in this game then I would say you really will hard time reading me in others



Well maybe but dosn't prove anything


I am saying from quite sometime if they have they have tracker because obby claimed a tracker result If he got watcher result surely he would surely have posted it and when people asked why he used it champ he would clearly recognized he used on you not champ

Conclusion : the team has tracker , they don't have watcher I believe they probably told him get the watcher out or maybe there was some miscommunication
I've already given my reasoning but I didn't like how you were so quick to jump on what Chr1st0 said either. Seems like something you probably wouldn't say if you were Ring aligned though.

Dan is someone I need to check out.

Went through Kenny's posts, they're 99% fluff. Considering the post count I would have expected to see more reads. He posted a lot deferring work to others and making it appear as if he was scumhunting but the only original reads I saw were a scum read on Fap and a town read on Rising. I think there was another scum read but that one has escaped my mind now. I might have picked up on a scum tell but i'll have to check his last town game to see if it really is one or if i've just caught onto something he does irrespective of alignment.

I'd like at least a handful of original in depth reads from Kenny. He said he's been scumhunting and has been asking players for reads so I assume he has a lot to say.
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"proving", anything in mafia is hard. It's at least an accurate description of the way I play, and thus more likely to be through. Given the amount I've been posting it's reasonable to assume I'm active as hell in a scumtopic and thus on top of things, no? At the very least Obby is newb enough that I think he'd seek guidance in his qt.

I don't see any of the "controlling" experienced players being scum. (For instance DocBlue and Titania I think would advise him better, whereas someone like IMPULSE might not give a fuck). (Actually Titania is quite passive at times, but eh) (DocBlue's probably not ring aligned, at any rate.) sXe's trap looks genuine too, not sure he'd feel the need to make it was he ring aligned.
Well I would say more than half people in the game will probably advice him better, In simple we don't what was their plan they had so many possibilities but ya it does look like there is bad coordination in team so its unlikely they are but not impossible

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Daykilling scum, Nk scum, Vig as kills? Eh. I still think the scum kill at night and it's an SK killing during the day. Simply b/c unless the daykilling team are smaller then killing during the day is a massive advantage. It's instantaneous + there are obviously more nightroles in the game.
Well I don't care much whether its SK or mafia I would just say its likely non innoccent with a killing role
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I'm town bro...guarandamntee it.
I was scum with Kenny in the CL game and he was a lot less active than now, don't think I even interacted with him once in the QT. I think his activity in this game might have been a ploy to appear to be playing different to his last game as scum.

As for the above quote, once the pressure got turned up on Kenny in the CL game, his only defence against the rising tide was a single post of 'I'm not scum', not too different in theme from his offering quoted above.


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i thought punk gave a fuck as scum. i think he was voted scum player of the year and is a more capable scum player.

what goes against him is that he's usually proactive as town during this stage of the game. he was on fire during day 2 of christmas mafia. he does have the flu which could explain his level of play.
He does. Appearing to not really care that much is part of his game play, certainly at this stage of the game.
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Kenny always seems to be active tbh. Don't think that's indicative of alignment.

I checked his play with Star Wars where he repped in as town. His play isn't too dissimilar to this game in fairness and the scum tell I thought I had on him was used in that game albeit moreso in Christmas where he was scum but not at all from what I saw in NFL where he was town from the start. Maybe i'm mistaken on the scum tell but we'll see. I'm still leaning scum on him
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