I'm not too concerned about Obby but i'm leaning scum based on his claim.
Disagree on Chr1st0. His comparison with Obby's last two games comes off pretty town to me. Whether it was correct or not we'll see but I would have come to the same conclusion if i'd remembered that and it makes sense that he'd push on Obby for it.
Agree with Nov as town. I disagree with his tactics but they're not scum motivated.
No reads either way on the rest.
How did you come to the conclusion that i'm scum and Fap is town? It seems like you were undecided in the post but then shifted at the end. I also want you to tell me how this game compares with my meta since you used that to vig me in the last game
Faraday's play has read obvious town to me from the start though I don't care for the following post of his I quoted because saying stuff like that will make people think the opposite. So I was thinking that since he's likely town and has such a strong scum read on you, you might be scum, something I just couldn't see yet. Now after seeing more from you I can see you being scum with LC.
I'm CONFIRMED TOWN for the flavour point anyway and the way I approached it.
No you aren't.
What Kenny wagon? The one that you failed to get going because you decided to ignore like 75% of his posts when laying out your case?
I just said Obby's play was similar to his scum game and dissimilar to his town game on here, I didn't even push it much since there was only about an hour left in the day.
Still think obby is probably scum.
Tatania, I've explained my stance of the doc wagon, it was a waste of time and the case was fairly poor at the time.
I noticed that that statement you made was a major reason a lot of people jumped on the wagon. Scum would more likely jump on the wagon then drive it I guess. Scrilla seems town to me. I could see Obby flipping scum but I still feel like his play, coming from him, has been town. I played with him as scum and the Obby in this game seems quite different. He could have changed things up though.
No mention of rising
Jokes aside I would say obby is fairly townish play ,I not sure about christo now , nov I feel is town as of now , impulse hmm not sure not , LC I woudl agree even same applies to CP both seem to be bir under the rader, doc i think may be scum , farday leaning towards innoccent and sxe and kenny probably both are town I think
That town will decided its not upto you
I didn't include players I didn't have much of a read on, Rising, and you're someone that always blends in so well that even when you're scum you never make me suspicious. I need to notice your play more so I can learn your meta. Wow, I'm surprised that you agree with everything I said. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing, lol. Well I guess if you're town it's a good thing. Yeah, CP has been flying under the radar as well.
When am I ever aggressive as scum (or even "fake aggressive")? It doesn't happen so I don't see why you'd think I'm scummy for it.
As for Obby and chr1st0. There's a difference between sheeping someone and following someone who brings up a good point. I think chr1st0 caught something. I was convinced enough based on what chr1st0 caught to see Obby's claim. And when he did claim it was... odd. And I will take note of that and I'm clearly not the only one. You can push it off as nothing and perhaps it is, but perhaps it's not.
It felt off to me and just because you're saying that it isn't a part of your scum meta doesn't mean you couldn't have done it in this game. I rarely would ever buss as scum yet I did it in Star Wars and used that argument that bussing isn't part of my scum game to appear innocent.
So many of your posts have just been filler rather than actual scum hunting. It's such an obvious contrast to your play in Champions League. I don't expect you to be that obvious town in every game but I'm still thinking you're scum.
Why don't just give yours? don't think a person who thinks your mafia is unlikely to give what you what you request
Well that dosn't make much of difference Burbank aligned is not easy to remember when there have been no death probably I would said innoccent aligned aswell on the contrary if I was scum I would more specific as I don't want screw up my claim
Yeah, those are my exact thoughts.
I don't think Obby is the type to get all nervous at the thought of having to claim if he's played Mafia before though, it's not like he's new to the game. His lack of presence in the thread during the wagon and after it is making me more suspicious than anything right now but as said before it's unlikely he'll make it far in this game anyway.
I've given my thoughts, I was asking Fap because I wanted his thoughts on you in particular.
I can't go through all of your past games, especially as I can't even remember what games you've been in besides Wildlife.
Meh I misunderstood your point on Chr1st0, I thought you were saying he ignored the wagon, not that he denied it happened. I came back with a defense because I saw what I thought was a bad and misguided wagon being led on me and then a lot of people blindly following it. I didn't believe the Obby wagon would take off since deadline was so close, once it got serious I offered my thoughts on it and his subsequent claim. IIRC you also asked why the Obby wagon was going so no idea why you brought that up.
I didn't have much of a read on LC but she seems town to me lately, I don't recall her getting into the whole 'I don't do this/that as scum' when she's been scum and she's been actively contributing. No reason to supect her so far anyway.
I havn't noticed sXe and I have only seen Scrilla's posts surrounding the Obby wagon which he seemed to be pushing pretty hard but I wouldn't be confident of labelling either of them as town/scum without checking out their posts. Scrilla obviously isn't aligned with Obby which is useful since I do think Obby may well end up flipping scum. His 'noting' of my 'defense' of Obby seemed lazy actually, why even say that?
She hasn't seemed like town LC to me at all. I'm surprised you haven't noticed that and the contributions she has made haven't showed the level of awareness and thought she normally shows as town.
Because the thought you might be aligned with Obby if he flips scum?
I was posting it from how Taz would be think in my opinion.
My main town reads at the moment are: Scrilla, Lady Croft, Froot, Ziggler Mark, Impulse and Sxe Maverick
I am getting scum vibes from Anark based on his play and how he has played as scum in champions league mafia plus picking up on weird thing to call people out on, Obby and kenny for reasons I have said before and Taz are the ones who comes off as the most scummy right now.
So your reasons are then....
Why do you think LC and Impulse are town? It's funny how you're getting scum vibes only from players who people are suspicious about.
Does scrilla tend to give more of a fuck about his appearance as scum (In general, stuff to follow up later, I guess)
Yeah, his play so far seems town to me.
I'm no good at that on day and night 1. I start shaking the foundations once some shit has gone down.
All I can do before then is pick up on bits and pieces which catch my eye. That has been my town game since I started playing four or five months ago or whatever it was. Add in a little random and apparently pointless accusations and short-lived but intense questioning (with no other purpose but to get more posts and reactions out of people) and that has been my game.
My scum game so far has been to either do whatever CP tells me to do in the QT or try and replicate my town game, which I did in the recent CL mafia, to great effect I might add. Until Magic repped in at least.
Believe it or not, none of you can actually read me in early game. You don't stand a fucking chance.
The fact that loads of you took my fake miller claim joke as something to actually analyse proves that at least most of you are as bad at this game as I am.
Your tone here is such a contrast to your normal town tone where you're unsure of yourself and saying most of us are much better than you.
chr1st0 is town to whoever suggested he wasn't btw.
Are you confirming him as town and can he do the same for you before we end up in the same situation Imp found himself in when he replaced Evo in Star Wars?
Getting you to 'E-hate' me wasn't hard to do actually, you come off as emotionally imbalanced. Which is why you taunt people for their play and what not. Just know that I am not 'e-offended' and that I am just concerned for you. Your scum reads on me have had little to no substance, no reasons given, probably just motivated by spite. Which is 'optimal play', I'm sure
Remember this if I die tonight. Faraday is the only person I've focused on, who else would want me dead? No one.
I wouldn't say stuff like that. Scum could just shoot you to make Faraday look bad.
CP is scum, by the way. Only just picked up on it.
But he is scum.
I'll put something together when I haven't been debating with Jim Beam for several hours.
You're not worried about getting killed tonight and losing that opportunity?
I don't think I've ever read an Anark post I liked despite whether or not I agree with a point of his.
I don't particularly remember the Cole Barker character, but I will say this about the show - it had a small primary cast. There are tertiary characters that show up in most episodes, but there are a LOT of guest stars. With 31 roles and 6-7 "main" characters I'd wager quite a few roles are going to be characters that have only been in a handful of episodes.
The picture he posted is also the first image that appears for a google search of Cole Barker. I wish I knew if Lawls grabbed all of the pictures from the Chuck Wiki or not (where mine is from) or from Google images. Or even if Lawls did the images. I imagine he did since he sent out the roles.
I will say that obby's picture he linked is the first result on google images, and so is mine, but if I go to the URL of the image from my PM it is not the same image from google images. That one is from the Chuck Wiki but the one in my PM (same image) looks like it was saved, renamed and hosted elsewhere.
I guess when you add it all up I think that the images in our PM's are hosted somewhere else and the one obby linked does not share this trait, more like he googled the character and posted the image.
obby is scum in my book based just on that.
Hmmm, I wonder if he is scum. I found it kind of strange that he even included a picture. I should check my pm. I could see him just googling the character and taking a picture from there in stead of his pm though.
Soooo can we vig obby then? If the vig hadn't sent in his role or has time to change it.
I really don't like the idea of vigging our potential Watcher. Even if he is scum, since most are saying this is likely a multi-scum game, he'll be roleblocked and killed, unless he's on the scum team with the roleblocker. Yes, I'm assuming there's a scum roleblocker/jailkeeper or scum have an x-shot role like that.