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Join Date: Jan 2007
Re: CHUCK MAFIA GAME PLAY THREAD
I think Obby is town. From the beginning I noticed a difference between his playstyle in here vs. Star Wars Republic. In that game where we were scum together his posts offered nothing and he played up the clueless newbie appearance. There is the similarity in not wanting to vote on day 1 but it feels like that's something he's taken from that site he normally plays mafia at rather than for that to be a scum-tell. The way his wagon flew in just a couple of hours is another reason I think he's likely a town Watcher. I guess it's different when you're behind and catching up and you see all these votes flying on this player instead of reading the thread as it's unfolding.
I'm still leaning scum on Anark. As Dan pointed out, he made a lot of solid reads in Christmas mafia. He was right about me being scum and kept pushing it with valid points. It feels like he's not playing his town game at all. I think he's better than this.
Also leaning scum on chr1st0. I don't like many of chr1st0's posts. The comments he's making feel off and the way he pushed the Obby wagon using the parallel between him choosing not to vote on day 1 in this game and Star Wars as opposed to wagoning in Smiley mafia where he was town seemed weak. What about Obby's overall play in those two games vs. this one so far? I find it scummy of him to focus on that one thing and say since Obby did that as scum in Star Wars and he's doing it now he's likely scum even though there's a clear difference in the quality of the posts he's making in this game vs. Star Wars. Oh yes, that reminds me, I think Obby saying Innocent Aligned isn't a scum slip. As Faraday said, it's sloppy, not scummy and I think he'd more likely do it as town.
I think LC is likely scum as well. Her beginning posts were just fluff and it isn't like a lot hadn't happened yet. Her aggressive posts towards Nov and Taz felt fake. Lack of activity and lack of substance in her posts are definite scumtells for her. I didn't like how quick she was to trust chr1st0 in wagoning Obby. Chr1st0 made that post about Obby's play being more similar to Star Wars because of the "no lynch" than Smiley mafia. LC just said it was interesting and that she hadn't noticed that. Then as the Obby wagon picked up speed she joined it based on chr1st0's post. I think town LC would have actually questioned things and been more thoughtful. And I really didn't care for that post where she was laughing at Obby for posting Innocent Aligned. Just felt like something scum LC would do. I know a lot of others sheeped Chr1st0 but I guess she stood out to me because I know she plays a more thoughtful game.
Nov is one of my town reads. I notice he is careless regarding his appearance when he's town so he ends up making posts where his motives can be easily misinterpreted by town and his posts just as easily exploited by scum. I think Nov voting Doc even though he felt the one leading the wagon might be scum and didn't think that Doc post was scummy is something town Nov would do and just the fact that he openly admitted to all this shows he's town. It felt like a genuine push for productivity and the hope that whatever he could learn about Doc's alignment he could then use to further analyze Faraday and the others who were pushing against Doc. I think scum Nov plays a tighter game where he's always aware of how he'll be perceived based on what he posts.
I'm not sure about Impulse. I don't know if he misinterpreted Nov's play in that instance or he's scum who attempted to exploit him. I feel like it's the latter but this could just be my paranoia of him kicking in. How perfectly he painted Nov as scum makes me uncomfortable since he's done this before, as scum, though he didn't put himself out there as much in this game but he is making an obvious attempt to be active which is great regardless of his alignment.
Faraday and Doc.
I'm kind of confused now regarding these two. I had a strong town read on Faraday based on his aggression and overall play. When I first read Doc's initial post, I didn't notice anything scummy about it. But then after reading Faraday's points against him and then rereading Doc's post, I could see what he was saying and I thought Doc's post did leave a lot to be desired since he's DocBlue and I'd think there'd be more substance in it even though he hadn't read everything yet and he was going to sleep. I don't like how both Anark and Chr1st0 were completely against Doc's wagon. After I read Doc's defense, I started to see it all from his point of view and I can see it both ways. Actually, thinking about it, I still think Faraday is town and that wasn't a scum lynch and I think Doc might be scum. I hope it isn't the opposite.
I think sXe is town. Not sure about Kenny. He did post a lot of fluff in Christmas mafia and was really active as he's been in this game but his voting for Faraday and the post he made about how he doesn't like how he undermines him makes me think he's town. I just don't see him as scum going up against Faraday like that. Most players when they're scum buddy the strong town players. I didn't like how Kenny kept asking others about their opinions of someone in the thread while not contributing much himself though. Then I thought of a pro-town reason why he'd do that which I don't want to share. Eh, I think Kenny is town.
Sounds like this is a multi-scum game so it'll be a challenge to identify the actual townies since it's easy to look town when you can actually scum hunt.