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Old 02-01-2013, 06:25 AM   #2291 (permalink)
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Reivindicação Anark soa como besteira. Eu sou um townie baunilha + Alexis Sanchez como um realmente não funciona, apesar do sabor que ele deu. Além disso, Sanchez não faz sentido ser o jogador do Barcelona no jogo e quem quer que fosse não seria um townie baunilha considerando o Barça é a melhor equipa do mundo.
Believe me Nov, I had much the same reaction as you did when I saw the PM (guessing big still hasn't gotten over Rome and Wembley ). I admit its hardly the greatest claim given the stature of Barcelona and their players and admit their side of all teams having a Vanilla Townie is odd, but why risk drawing attention to such a claim at this stage when I could have made the effort to fake something more convincing if I was scum?

What are your thoughts on the Magic/Ziggler discussion? As a more experienced player I'm guessing you have more knowledge of Magic's play if you've played regularly with him so would be interested to hear if you have any thoughts on that.
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Eu acredito que você Woolcock. Com um observador ainda vivo que seria ridículo afirmar baunilha, porque as chances são de que eles teriam visto que pelo menos uma vez durante todo o jogo, se você tinha um papel.

Eu sinto que ele e Dan seria definitivamente dois que iria fazê-lo e, possivelmente, uma forma de Magia para desculpar empurrando Imp. Além disso, fazê-lo certamente limpar ele, aos seus próprios olhos de qualquer maneira, apesar de não fazer isso tornaria óbvio que ele era a escória.

Além disso, com as duas equipes escumalha um observador de escória é definitivamente viável como as duas equipes têm papéis diferentes.

Finalmente, não faz sentido porque mágica iria assistir Imp e por escória iria tentar matá-lo quando ele era tão desconfiado e Magic tinha certeza de que era a escória. Como observador, eu não estaria assistindo alguém que era improvável de ser morto pela escória, dificilmente inteligente. Eu acho que ele disse a Dan para matar Imp, para que haja uma boa townie com um poderoso papel para fora do caminho, e depois passou a obter Dan linchado para limpar a si mesmo como ele realmente não tinha escolha.

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I believe you Woolcock. With an observer still alive it would be ridiculous to say vanilla because chances are that they would have seen it at least once throughout the game, if you had a role.

I feel that he and Dan would definitely two that would do it, and possibly a way to apologize for pushing Magic Imp. Also, make sure you clean it, in his own eyes anyway, despite not doing so would make it obvious that he was scum.

Moreover, with the two teams scum scum of an observer is definitely viable as both teams have different roles.

Finally, it makes no sense why would watch Magic Imp and slag would try to kill him when he was so suspicious and Magic was sure he was scum. As an observer, I would not be watching someone who was unlikely to be killed by scum hardly intelligent. I think he told Dan to kill Imp, so there is a good townie with a powerful role out of the way, and then proceeded to get lynched Dan to clean himself as he really had no choice.

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Interesting thoughts on the Magic situation. Is a tactic like that with dan something he has evidence of doing/would be likely to do in the past? I know Magic is regarded as one of the stronger players in mafia so I can certainly see him being able to influence decisions and make strong plays that would go undetected by many, his catching of scum so far has been impressive and for me he's been making strong reasoning and good observations: interesting point you make about the imp situation and magic's usage of watcher and how it lead to the demise of dan.

I won't vote yet since we're down to a handful of votes for a lynch and I'd like to see Magic propose counter reasoning for his actions before making a decision. Appreciate your thoughts though because you've raised some interesting thoughts.
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Porra, tradutor terrível. Espero que você possa entender tudo isso ..

Tenho certeza de que Magic é mais do que capaz de fazê-lo. Raciocínio forte e boas observações não são realmente tão muito de uma cidade dizer para os jogadores como Magic ao contrário de outros, mas eu vejo o seu ponto. Olhando para a frente a um contador dele também.
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Yeah there was a couple of words that I had to re-read, but the overall content was clear and I was able to make understanding of it.

I see your point re. Magic's reasoning and analysis maybe being less of an obvious town tell for him, guessing its similar to Faraday in that they're both experienced and knowledgeable players so they can convincingly make apparent solid reads even if they're doing it for a mislynch. I'm not overly familiar with any meta of magic's so atm I'd be more inclined to find his strong reasoning a good basis for him being closer to town (only because I'm basing any judgement off of the evidence before me, and Magic's in depth analysis has made it far more easier for me to re-read over the thread when he's making accusations compared to others), but I am definitely interested in how he responds to the areas you cited as being suspect.
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Still having trouble processing Skyfall's claims he did cast his vote on Nov to night lynch only for nothing to occur. Scrilla was the one claiming BG iirc? Only thing I can think of was him protecting Nov since the roleblockers have flipped and I can't see why skyfall would lie in his last post after death, since it achieves nothing.
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Eu duvido que um guarda-costas seria capaz de parar uma noite de Lynch, como eu duvido Scrilla teria me protegido.

Outra teoria pode ser que a magia é uma escória lyncher noite, ele disse Skyfall à noite me linchar sabendo muito bem que ele não faria o mesmo, então quando eu não morrer, ele poderia usá-lo para obter Skyfall linchado, o que é exatamente o que ele fez.

Ou isso, ou Big apenas não permite a lyncher ontem à noite para linchar, o que é justo e crível.
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I believe you Woolcock. With an observer still alive it would be ridiculous to say vanilla because chances are that they would have seen it at least once throughout the game, if you had a role.

I feel that he and Dan would definitely two that would do it, and possibly a way to apologize for pushing Magic Imp. Also, make sure you clean it, in his own eyes anyway, despite not doing so would make it obvious that he was scum.

Moreover, with the two teams scum scum of an observer is definitely viable as both teams have different roles.

Finally, it makes no sense why would watch Magic Imp and slag would try to kill him when he was so suspicious and Magic was sure he was scum. As an observer, I would not be watching someone who was unlikely to be killed by scum hardly intelligent. I think he told Dan to kill Imp, so there is a good townie with a powerful role out of the way, and then proceeded to get lynched Dan to clean himself as he really had no choice.


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Oh okay, so you don't believe him saying that he's probably scum because his claim/character don't match and then then suddenly you change your mind completely? I still think you're one of the last two scum players left, probably with WOOLCOCK.

I wouldn't have gotten my scum teammate killed this late in the game when there is another scum team we can get killed. That's a waste and being scum has always been about the numbers game, why bother losing an extra vote when you don't have to? And it wasn't just the watcher result btw, I was the first one to say he was scum after anark posted his info, I called him out for likely being the scum roleblocker.

I assume you meant that watcher could easily be scum? I won't argue this as it's just setup speculation, once again from you, but let me ask you what's the point of the red team having a ninja if they have the watcher as well? that basically makes the role pointless to have.

none of that first sentence makes sense, but I watched IMPULSE because 1. there was no better player to watch if he was indeed town 2. he could have caught scum with his role 3. he was scum's most likely target. And someone confirmed his role(it was Anark which is why I remained suss), but like I said, I watched him because he would HAVE to deliever scum the next day or I would have gotten him lynched for
it the next day(and no I wouldn't regret it because his claim and play was both awful so MEH).

That's quite a scenario you made by once again why would I have gotten him killed for no reason. If I was scum alongside dan why wouldn't I just claim to have been blocked? That gives me an automatic out as well as getting rid of IMPULSE and keeping Dan.

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I doubt a bodyguard would be able to stop a night of Lynch, as I doubt Scrilla would have protected me.

Another theory could be that magic is a slag lyncher night, he said Skyfall evening lynch me knowing full well that he would not do the same, then when I die, he could use it to get lynched Skyfall, which is exactly what he did.

Either that, or just does not allow the Big lyncher last night to lynch, what is fair and credible.
this is just more speculation to what I would do as scum. once again mafia is a number game and I wouldn't keep you around just cause and if I was indeed the scum night lyncher this game would be over you fool. Night lynch+night kill would leave us with four people which is likely end game. we're at lylo and I'm not going to allow town to fuck up.


Nov I find it interesting you only started trying when I said you were scum. You were fine with coasting as long as I wasn't pressuring you, but all of a sudden you start trying once I accuse of being scum. Taz was anything but playing protown when he was around, he essentially ignored character claiming or doing anything remotely helpful as long as possible until you repped in and you did pretty much the same in regards of being helpful. For someone that said he would follow any lynch and read I had just a few phases ago, a sure lot seems to have changed since then, but why? oh right, because I said you're probably scum.

There is no justification for you making such a huge swing, especially when there is likely two scum left and two other unconfirmed players(in any way) alongside yourself that you haven't even mentioned other than saying WOOLCOCK is probably town which is pretty baffling in my eyes when you just said you didn't believe his claim as well. You continue to contradict yourself and it just makes yourself look worse and worse.

People keep saying I only caught one red scum compared to four purple and that's why I'm scum, which is ridiculous but I disgress, but what exactly makes you, chr1st0, or WOOLCOCK town? All three of you have done pretty much nothing against the red scum team and haven't really provided all that much in end game if nothing, seemingly just coasting by and following others, which isn't anything like you in particular. It shouldn't have taken you this long to try and it shouldn't have taken my accusation of you either.
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