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I don't think MDP was soft confirming anything.



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First off, I'm forever convinced ZigglerMark is town. I love the fella.
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Re: Champions League Mafia - Game Thread

well once titania gathered those posts, 3 of them saying the same thing, it looked very clear.

that's right I read back on 3D montior! This post brought to you by a $100 mechanical keyboard!
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well once titania gathered those posts, 3 of them saying the same thing, it looked very clear.

that's right I read back on 3D montior! This post brought to you by a $100 mechanical keyboard!
you bought a 3D monitor? sucker...

Also, if you're not spending at least 100 on mouse and keyboard, you're doing it wrong, so good work!
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Re: Champions League Mafia - Game Thread

LAWLS

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Vote LC

Can't trust her
Joke vote.

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wouldn't have a clue who would be in the mafia faction
setup speculation

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Fitz share your knowledge with us
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Lets cook some meth bitches
stuff

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Nov are you Ibra, trying to act like you're not?
Wasn't this the purple scum team? Why the random question about his team when we had no idea this group was scum at the time?

Lawls for purple scum.

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dem softclaims coming from left right and center
nothing

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If there is a SK in the game wonder who it would be.
Speculation

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And my wagon is rubbish and you all know that.
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Liverpool would be seen to be the mafia alignment since they aren't in the Champions League!

Hence it being CHAMPIONS LEAGUE MAFIA so it makes perfect sense.

Tkok is town, he hasn't fucked up anything.
More setup speculation

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What has happened in this game?

Wake up to see a phase already gone past and a duel occurring?
READ

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ugh 2 scum teams as well, fuck that shit.
reaction sounds fake to me

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HEY SHEP AM I STILL USELESS NOW

Vote rising
yes All you did was vote confirmed scum.

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vote pez
Kenny flipped purple scum, this happened when some people were voting Lawls and others went to Pez. Kenny ignored the Lawls wagon and even contradicted himself to vote Lawls.

Lawls has been pretty useless with only joke posts and filler and setup speculation which is all fine but there's nothing else. I literally quoted every one of his posts. Plus setup speculation is just used to look useful without being useful so it makes sense he'd have so much of it. He hasn't said his reads on anyone and has just laid low this whole time.

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Re: Champions League Mafia - Game Thread

Didn't you mention you thought Lawls was scum earlier? If so, way to be consistent. and yes, I would agree that he has been useless (at least I found out like 3 town roles ) with the low post count. Even thought Lawls seems to usually post a lot in only short bursts, there usually useful posts. I'm with you Dan.
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Re: Champions League Mafia - Game Thread

SKYFALL

Alright, looking back he has given his thoughts and has scumhunted some and claims to have read back through Doc's posts. That's good but still, some things aren't shining him in such a town light imo.

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Doc getting overly angered. It think that's a town trait of his. Way to go, you passed my Town test Doc.
Calls Doc town (it's day 1 so ok, I'm just pulling out posts that might matter)

BUT

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wow. whoever got Doc good job. I totally bought his anger as town.

vote Kenny

if this hint was for real, then mikey is going 4-0 for scum


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well actually, if he was suspect of Kenny, then he probably wouldn't hide behind Kenny

unvote kenny


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11/13?

unvote Kenny

I'll unvote until more folks hope on. I'm not exactly sold on this lynch anyways.


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I don't care if it's a waste...

MATCH BETWEEN MCLOVIN IT & ZIGGLERMARK
Alright, now this thing.

Yeah, the Duelist is usually a town role. It can be a scum role though, as we've seen in the past. Thing is it's a risky scum role because you have in a simplified way, 50/50 shot of dying.

Except this wasn't the duelist. This was "pick two players, one of them dies" role.

That could easily be a scum role. Scum with an extra kill/poison/strongman kill is not uncommon at all. In this case just pick two players not on your team and one of them is guaranteed to die, win/win for him and his team.

It could be a town role too.

But looking at the context of it, I'm leaning scum for Skyfall and this role. He used this role during the night right after that Kenny debacle and right when several people were calling him scummy. My guess is he's scum, panicked as he saw some people calling him out and so he wanted to use his role, "confirming" himself so he isn't vigged or anything.

However, Skyfall if you can give me a different explanation as to why you used your role exactly at that moment, I'll listen.

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Re: Champions League Mafia - Game Thread

to shut up McLovin and ZigglerMark (of whom I'm so sorry for ever doubting). I didn't believe either of them; and once McLovin claimed (although he could prove it, as I pointed out) I was still unsure, and due to your reasoning of trying to confirm himself (as you stated you thought I did).

also, I thought it was funny.
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Re: Champions League Mafia - Game Thread

TAYLORFITZ

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You know what. unvote Vote oompaloompaTaz

Let's be realistic here. He's not going to post in this game. If he has a good role Night will last forever because of him and he'll get replaced without even using it. Maybe he's scum. Let's just take a shot since this thread has been worthless right now. Also I think it would be good to force some of the newer players to claim early. In the last game Obby made a terrible fake claim and if he hadn't been bussed he might have gotten away with it.

Basically we have nothing to lose by just go after a new player and getting any type of discussion going is probably a good idea.
The tunneling of poor new oompaloomaTax BEGINS

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I don't even know what Champions League is so no guess on the scum team. I wasn't even sure this was about soccer when I signed up.
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Awesome. I made sXe's scum list. There's only thing this means. We're both town. I've found that he usually doesn't just arbitrarily put me on his scum list when he's scum.
Thinks sXe is town, okay.

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I still think lynching oompalumpataz is the way to go. He was the last person to post and a scum member easily could have told him topost everything in Portugese. If he is scum he's going to cost until late in the game. He also hasn't given character which I don't like either.

Again he's the safest lynch possible. We lose a very annoying PR who's new if he's town and if he's scum then he's scum.

I'm honestly not sure what to make of the LC, Pez, Tat, Nov CP STUFF that's going on. I'm sure at least one of them is town but I honestly don't have an opinion on any of them yet.
oompaloompataz

And a 'one of the following is town' list.

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I for one am not going to ever translate a single thing he says.

Sorry guys Nov thinks I'm good so I have to play terrible so he stops thinking that. And if Nov thinks I'm good that could rub off onto other players.

You know what. I refuse to contribute in anyway until we lynch Taz.
TAZ

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I see there on no more votes on oompalumpaTaz.
TAZ

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I should totally be protected. I'm great at this game.
alright

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I fucked up terribly on my first game and I can easily see new players saying something incriminating if we push them. And no offense but nobody is ever good when they're new (aside from Doc) so it's not like it's a huge loss if we do lynch them and they're town.
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Vote Kenny I don't know why Mikey would make a post like that if he wasn't going to hide behind Mikey. Skyfall gets some scum points for thinking the opposite.

And fine make Taz claim, I just don't think we need to vote him to make him do that. No point in wasting time when it's obvious who we should lynch. I'm unsure about Taz but there's a decent chance he's faking the PR. Could easily see someone like Doc telling him to do that when he was the last one to post. On the other hand we should go after the sure thing today.

We know Kenny isn't town. We lynch him today. Anyone that played last game knows why we need to do this.
TAZ

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Well glad we got that out of the way and didn't waste time. McClovin has a pretty easy role to prove. All someone has to do is target him. He posts his results tomorrow and if he lies about we lynch him. Easy enough, might even be for the best that he claimed at night.

Looking at the lynch Christo and Skyfall looked bad. When you know that someone is scum there is no reason not to lynch that person. Town can only lynch one person a day and going after multiple claims early in the game is only going to hurt town when the person we're going to lynch won't change.

Had Taz come in and claimed it wouldn't have mattered what he said because we were going to lynch Kenny anyway.
alright post.

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Someone just kill Taz, this is getting silly. I don't understand why he won't just tell us his character.
TAZ

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Well he can read. And everyone is telling him to give is his character and he's just not doing it. The fact that almost everyone is telling him to do it and the fact that he's hesitating, or outright stalling doesn't make me think he's town.
TAZ

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Hey Skyfall what the shit? Ziggler had a provable role and you put him in a duel. Explain those choices right now.
ok

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Well that was an easy day phase.

Scum teams need to start shooting at each other though.
ok

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I'm interested in hearing what Dan has to say as well.

I don't like that some people think I'm scum and there are 2 scum teams. One of them is bound to to shoot me thinking I'm on the other team.
Why would scum do that if they want you lynched?

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Why would anyone think Ziggler is scum for not voting Rising. I mean he had to know that wouldn't work the whole phase so I don't see why scum would attempt to do something so stupid to protect their own. Ziggler's post seems to be an example of misreading the write up and not him being scum.
Alright.

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We should look back and see what CP had to say about Taz. If he had said with certainty that he was town then he probably used his role to see if there was a PR in the game.
TAZ

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Yeah I don't think we're going to get anything from CP's posts.

I'm pretty suspicious of Skyfall myself. It just seems like the role isn't very helpful for town. A duel is one thing but this didn't involve town deciding who to kill. I mean I don't see how a game of luck where the loser dies is something that would help town.
Alright.


Those are all of Fitz's posts. Out of all 20 of them, almost half concern oompaloompataz. Some of the remaining ones don't contain anything useful. With the last few Fitz looks to be moving away from Taz and sharing thoughts on others, so that's working for him.

Overall though Fitz is tunneling the easiest target in the game: not only is he a new player but one with a post restriction that makes him almost useless too. I can understand not believing he's telling the truth, but to be gunning for him so much like this and focusing only on him? Either tunneling as town or scum digging for an easy target to distract town and waste a lynch on.

I may be wrong but I feel like in other games Fitz usually shares his thoughts on others and doesn't really tunnel the one really easy target. Plus the way he's lying low reminds me of ACOK mafia where he was scum, I feel like he doesn't do this as much when town.

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