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Old 12-21-2012, 06:50 PM   #121 (permalink)
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indeed. I should just do a throw away year to completely fall off of everyone's radar.
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:54 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Ive tried coasting. I tried playing like absolute garbage. I was still killed before any of it mattered.
The fact is the shepherd(SHEPARD)-to-sheep disparity is wide. So for a pack of wolves (MAFIA), or a mountain lion (SK), it's in their best interest to take out the shepherds early on before they can put together the clues and patterns to detect who the wolves are. The sheep aren't going to figure it out, their only real hope are the shepherds (or ROLE INFO!!~~, but even good scum players can tapdance their way out of that). Of course not everyone plays this way as scum (Magic doesn't, there've been minis where I was mafia and just wanted to kill inactives cause I didn't want a dead thread), but it's perfectly viable and understandable to play that way.

So even if the shepherds are pretending to be sheep, they're still going to be killed, because they are who they are, and they possess the dedication or mental faculties to piece it all together and make rational arguments when the time is right. So even if they aren't going HAM or whatever, it's still in scum's best interest to take them out and lower the overall dedication/intelligence of town. Exceptions being outed town power roles, but even a fool with a power role can be manipulated by good scum players into using it poorly. A good player with a weak role is often more effective than a bad player with a strong role.
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:59 PM   #123 (permalink)
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I don't play that way as I prefer having a challenge and having it be fun. if all the good players are dead then it isn't really that hard, but managing to trick them into thinking your town is the fun part. that's usually when I kill them off.


but you are right, and nothing is ever going to change unless everyone gets better.
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It's especially frustrating when I'm scum and there's multiple scum groups and I've convinced town I'm town and then the other group kills me because they think I'm a good town player.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:04 PM   #125 (permalink)
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you mean like justified mafia?

multiple scum groups are really there to just fuck with good players as if they are scum they'll either be killed or copped by the other scum group. then the two groups just kill each other off(justified mafia, dragonball z mafia). I will admit as a host it is hilarious to watch.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:08 PM   #126 (permalink)
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tanking doesn't work for me anymore magic. i can only count two instances of where i got to endgame as town, one was because i was a BP PGO and the other b/c sterling told the people who wanted to kill me that i had fallen off.

tanking is a double edged sword b/c you get what you want in living longer but then you have to buy back credit w/ town b/c they dismiss you after playing like shit, which is probably what cost town in NFL mafia. b/c if i was the same player i was last year then maverick would have gotten lynched instead of punk in NFL mafia as i would have that sway over town.

also to tank you also to have to show the ability that you don't give a fuck and could be indifferent, which you don't magic.
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that's not true. I did tank, pretty well at that, last year during games until shepard started just going after me in those games and tried getting me lynched, which as a result make me try. idk, I guess I can't really do it, but our cases are still a little different as I'm also the player that gets the most posts in every game he's in without even making it past night 2 in most games. if I don't post people call me out on it even though it proves nothing alignment wise for me. I realize you used to be quite active yourself, but I'd be surprised if there was anyone at any point in mafia HISTORY that was as active as me during games.
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there was time where i could make a game active by myself

you actually used the activity argument against me in a few games, but i just post less now out of habit b/c of my scum run and disinterest in mafia. outside the first day my activity drops regardless of alignment now b/c i'm wired that way.
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Players like HoL and Faraday need to stop being ......s and start playing mafia consistently again.
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there was time where i could make a game active by myself

you actually used the activity argument against me in a few games, but i just post less now out of habit b/c of my scum run and disinterest in mafia. outside the first day my activity drops regardless of alignment now b/c i'm wired that way.
before I started playing games hardly ever got to 1000 and getting above 1000 would be an active game. after I started playing every game was getting to 1000 and games quickly started getting to 2000. of course that wasn't all me as PEZ and SHEPARD were incredibly active as well, but I was by far the most active player in the section/still am.

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Players like HoL and Faraday need to stop being ......s and start playing mafia consistently again.
HoL is probably busy and our mafia probably doesn't interest faraday anymore. he goes against the BIG BOYS or some shit on mafiascum. I'd go there too if I wouldn't be completely shit. I also prefer this forum's mafia over theirs as it's less serious here.
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