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Getting an indy vibe from me is appropriate as fuck.
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I think Sterling is more stupid rather than scum. Definitely lesser walla.

Town reads:

sxe_JOY
Rising
Mikey
Rush (still unsure though)
Tat
Scum:

Nov - scummy vibe
CP- also an indy vibe
Evo - still think he's not town
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Originally Posted by Roger Sterling View Post
Vote: Magic

I want to hear from him asap.
THE BEGINNING.

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Originally Posted by Deck the skyfalls View Post
Deck the harrs with bairs of horry!!! Fa rahrahrahrah!!! Ra, Rah rah rah!!!

No; I'm Skyfarr, what kind of a sirry question is that?

vote Magic
fluff vote.

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Originally Posted by DocScrooge View Post
Unvote. Vote Magic. Sounds like we need a claim
fluff vote.

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Originally Posted by ST. KAEPERNICK View Post
VOTE MAGIC Maybe we get a freak out, though I doubt it
lolz, you got plenty more. once again a fluff vote.

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Originally Posted by Lawlsmas View Post
switched Titania and christ0

vote magic
fluff vote.

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Originally Posted by CroftyClaus View Post
Why are we voting Magic? I don't get it. And why was CP at the scene of what appears to be the SK crime?
she was the first person to question this info which is really strange to me, especially considering doc didn't do so. idk, that's something I would expect doc to do.

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I'rr be home for Christmas, You can pran on me!!!! Prease have snow and mistre toe, and presents on the tree!!!

I don't think CP has anything to do with the kirrs, but he is stirr possibre scum; he just found our message.

Magic has been forecabry angry a rot so far, even for him. I thought Roger was scum, no idea why he wants to hear from Magic ASAP; this sounds rike roger probabry was watching Magic?
so you thought he was scummy and had no idea why he was voting me and yet still voted me?

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Originally Posted by MILA KUNIS' CHRISTMAS EYES View Post
just a read.


magic you say? colour me interested in where thats going. unvote vote magic
just going to say Rush is pretty much confirmed town in my eyes.
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Originally Posted by Roger Sterling View Post
Did I say you had a night action? More votes for a claim plz.
you never add anything to your pushes. just like I said in the last game, where you were scum. you just push it without adding substance.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
Do we really have any other reason other than you just want a claim?
doddsy also comes in strong questioning the lynch and does so throughout the wagon. I'm not going to comment on all his posts, just say that his general feeling of wanting to accomplish something in day as well as actually questioning what was going on throughout the lynch. he was actually trying to do the logical thing throughout which makes me think he's town.

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if you have cop results then you don't need a claim, if Magic has no night action then you have no info.
(y)
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Originally Posted by SantaFitz View Post
Good response from Magic.

Vote Magic
this made no sense. pretty sure he justified it as not wanting to lose to me as scum again or not wanting to fall for my scum tricks. this is what causes my irrational arrogant comments.

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Originally Posted by SantaFitz View Post
I don't think Roger would fake info on Magic after Night 1. If he says we need Magic to claim I'm going to believe him.

Also those are odd choices from Lawls to bus drive.
indeed, lawls picked weird as hell choices and I don't think he ever explained them. he kind of just hid in all of my wagon.

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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
Lawls targets are strange. Not sure why he got the reads he did on those two, there were a lot better options. Could be BS.

Who has Titania been suspicious of? Possible SK?

@Magic. Bad assumption, of course there are other possibilities.
stealing thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Roger Sterling View Post


How convenient, more votes plz.
how convenient, you never added substance.

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Originally Posted by Little Drummer Roy View Post
Faking info is fun, so it's not beyond possibility. Faking info on Day 2 is a little bastardish. Odds are he has info

Vote Magic

Lawls explained his reasoning, as I choose to believe he's town for now, I will go with it.
apparently I missed lawls reasing.

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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
Yeah yeah, Unvote, Vote Magic.
???

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Originally Posted by Rising View Post
Lawls already made an inpact with his role hmm......






lynch:magic
thats just wrong assumption he may be rolecop and got role which might think may be mafia like roleblcker ........he may role to find whether u have gun found you have gun etc and i am sure there other possibilities aswell
I think rising is scum. Like I said, I believe he did what Rush accused Nov of doing with the whole pushing without taking the heat for the mislynch.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
I still need more to go on to vote Magic, really all we've got is someone saying "vote him"
good on ya.

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The way he's presenting his case is pretty obvious. He wants to catch you in a lie or making up information. What exactly he has I don't know but Roger wants you to claim first because him claiming first could potentially make it easier for you to lie.

I'll go back to the color idea. If Roger's role tells him if someone is green or not green and he goes and claims the role and says he got "not green" for you. If you're scum you're obviously going to say you're red.

I know you're good at this game Magic so either you're scum and trying to get Roger to claim first or you're just being an idiot as town.
he could catch nothing. I do think you're town though. this level of questioning doesn't seem fake and you were pro-town throughout the wagon.

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Originally Posted by KING KENNY KRINGLE View Post
Yeah just claim magic.
k.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
Alright, simple solution to this whole issue. Sterling, is your info role related? Can easily answer that without giving anything away, while giving us something to go on.
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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
Magic's defense isn't looking great. If he was town his arguments would be legitimate and correct considering his ability. At the moment they are not.
first of all, lol @ you saying I have an ego and yet still being one of those that add to it.

more importantly, you shouldn't judge players based on their ability as that's just WIFOM. people have bad games or they regress or they're just not into. whatever, that shouldn't indicate their alignment unless it's an actual meta. also my defense to this point was all logical and basically the things Rush has said recently, he had no info so I wasn't going to claim.

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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
How do you know he isn't 100%? Because you are town? How very convincing. I'd like a claim from you before even the possibility that Sterling elaborates any further.
when people are 100% they make it blatantly obvious on here. people don't even try to hide things.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Sterling View Post
Keep voting until he claims.
still without the substance. this is why it's hard to follow his wagons.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
It's not really sharing anything that wouldn't be obvious to the mafia, if Magic is part of them. He just has to tell us if he actually has something supporting this, or if it's just he thinks he's been acting scummy.
bam.

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Originally Posted by HoHoHovolution View Post
You want the guy leading the wagon to out his reasoning/role before the accused does?
yes, although this was in response to doddsy. looking back on evo's play, it was actually more town than I remember. it doesn't help that people were just sheeping rush's thoughts when accusing him, especially sxe.

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Originally Posted by CamillePunk View Post
In before Roger's info is completely alignment-neutral.

Magic I haven't taken a stand against you, so please don't be scum.

LC...................
this where I said you were buddying me.


I also noticed you've been tunneling LC.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
No, I want the guy leading the wagon to give some sort of assurance that he actually has some sort of info, more than just he thinks he's scummy. Don't want any more than for him to say, I have role info. If Magic's not mafia, they're already going to know Sterling's got shit all, so they aren't going to worry about him. If Magic is mafia, they're going to know he does have some sort of good role. Where's the harm?
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Maybe Magic is Indy. He's always been independent.

I'm leaning toward weak or possibly fake info.
it was really weak info, which no one seemed to catch up on.

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Originally Posted by HoHoHovolution View Post
I didn't do anything last night so I hope this is a joke.
hinting at VT I guess or maybe just not using his role.

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Originally Posted by SantaFitz View Post
I'm leaning towards weak info right now. I also think that Magic can make that info 100% if he's scum and has to fake claim.

I'm going to bed. I'm leaving my vote where it is and I'm comfortable with it there right now even if Roger ends up having nothing based on Magic's response to this. I honestly think he's just going with the strategy that the players here won't lynch him without a claim because he's a good player. Roger has something obviously.
fitz just said this and sterling just agreed. he basically used fits to add substance for his wagon.

apparently it was the truth.

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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
Why is it so improbable that Roger does have 100% info but doesn't want to let it on and therefore is pushing for a claim over a lynch?
because of his meta and how people operate on here.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
So far, Roger has given us little or no reason to actually pursue a vote on Magic. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
Does faking info play into Roger's meta? On the surface he seems like the last person to do so, I don't know.

You are in favour of an Evo wagon, Rush? Don't disagree but what is your reasoning? Would like something for Evo to rebut, get a read etc.
posts like this what makes me think you're town.

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Originally Posted by Roger Sterling View Post
@RUSH, why are you diverting from Magic to Evo?

@Doddsy, what more do you want me to reveal?



Holy shit guys, it's someone using LOGIC.
lol logic. the irony.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
All I want is for you to give us some idea if this is role related info you have, or just your opinion that this is scummy. So far, you've given us nothing, and it's not enough to go on.
SO DAMN TOWNISH RIGHT NOW.

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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
Would love more votes on Magic tbh. Don't want everyone backing off just because CP and Rush don't agree with it.
and this is what makes me think you're scum. you come off literally both ways on this wagon, but you honestly just seemed to be going for a lynch now that I think about it. maybe you are scum. you and doddsy also had an interaction somewhere here that made me think you were both town.

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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
Why would Roger want to start a wagon on Magic unless he had info, he has hardly been scummy.

People should keep voting Magic imo.
you don't even ever seem to consider that he could be faking info, which was weird throughout the wagon. although I don't think people did it as much when you used to play.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nov View Post
Rush if you don't want a claim out of Magic what do you suggest the town do? You too Magic.

^^^ Yeah correct I guess, I'd say it's pretty impossible though that from your play so far, someone is so confident you are scum that they would actually fake info on you as Roger has.
townish post again.

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Originally Posted by CamillePunk View Post
vote LC

Play the game.
like I said, distancing yourself from the wagon until I voted you. but it made sense if you really did just think I was town and this was all a waste of time.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Sterling View Post
RUSH sticking out his neck for Magic looks terrible, and stop fishing for my role.

There's a reason I quoted this post and a reason I'm asking for only a CLAIM from Magic:
if Rush and I were scum together I doubt he would have done this. I know Rush is town, but I'm just saying, he would probably sacrifice me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Sterling View Post
What part of Magic's current defense has convinced you he's town, RUSH?
like I said then, you had no attack so I had nothing to defend against.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
This is getting ridiculous, you're both just trying to get the other to give up their role. Nothing is going to get done at this rate.
yeah1993

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Originally Posted by Nov View Post
I began the day happy for a wagon on a bunch of players that I stated in my first post of day 2. Have reasons for all, be them minor.

I can understand if Rush doesn't think that Magic is scum, but I'd feel more comfortable about him jumping off if he had another plan of attack. He appears happy for day 2 to end with no claims and no lynches.
townish post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Little Drummer Roy View Post
4 in the morning guys I don't have time for this. You had my ear Roger, but it seems like Magic doesn't want to play

Unvote

We'll see if a good night's sleep offers new insights.
lol.

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Originally Posted by CloverElf View Post
AMAZING! I'm thinking that's a nice new name for the New Year.

Vote CP I want to know what you were doing last night?

Also, keeping my eyes on the Roger/Magic standoff.
Clover came off town on this wagon. he seemed to be figuring out what was actually going on and I do think he's legit just trying to scumhunt. good for him.

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Originally Posted by Big_Man View Post
Vote Magic

no, you're not going to refuse to claim. There's info on you, whenever that happens the person claims. No one cares if you think its fake (and his role can be anything, you wouldn't know if he's faking). Just claim and we can move on, stop acting as if claiming is such a huge deal.
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I did read it, and I'll ask again, could you be 100% sure that Dan hasn't added an obscure role that isn't in that list or even created a new role based on the mechanics of this game?
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Originally Posted by Big_Man View Post
Instead of pushing this roger is lurking the thread which suggests he could be faking but its not exactly easy to move past this without clearing it up.
Big man=town. Adding relevant points instead of just fluff makes me think he's town of course, he's usually more of a coaster as scum.

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Originally Posted by JiGSaW View Post
Cop here

vote magic
jigsaw, like someone else said, was actually all over the place on this wagon. he's someone to look at.

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Originally Posted by CamillePunk View Post
vote Magic

got on my bad side
yeah, this was after I voted him.

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Originally Posted by Doddsy View Post
Vote PacoAwesome

We're going nowhere, I'm just going to random vote a guy with 1 post. He seems scummy, he needs to claim
lols.

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Originally Posted by CamillePunk View Post
lc rush magic fitz kaepernick

brb sleep
if those are still your reads, or if they have changed.then I want you to expand on them. the kaepernick one in particular.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HoHoHovolution View Post
I think I've seen enough Vote Magic
yeah, this looked bad after you were being accused.

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why?

holy shit that was a lot to read through half pissed/tired from work. what exactly is going on? Evo is full of fluff, sterling perhaps faked info and now we're going after CP? I'd much rather go after Evo.

Vote Evo
this was rush's thoughts summarized. the same thing that sxe was doing.

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idk why people are so resistant to the idea of getting a claim out of Magic, chances are you're all if not most probably town and we're just fighting with ourselves out of paranoia. Might as well get on the same page and get something done this phase because I'm not a great avenue.

If we're not going to do this we should at least go back through and see who Tat was suspicious of, I'd offer to but I'm going to bed soon and Tat's posts are honestly just too long for me.
townish, but the fact you didn't actually do anything with the posts is suspect.would have looked better had you actually gone in depth as you used to do.

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I was the one pushing on Lawls day 1 and you were giving me shit for it, now you're trying to put what I said in a negative light? I said *depending* on if Lawls is telling the truth which is still up in the air.

Someone being able to confirm who Lawls used/uses his role on might be able to make it easier for us to gauge him but I don't like how he's disappeared today.

Voting to get a claim out of me is stupid and wouldn't benefit town much at all tbh. I'm going to sleep now. If you are going to lynch me while I'm AWOL then that will be lolbad play on towns behalf.

It amuses me when people accuse me of fluffing then when I actually offer thoughts you all just ignore it and continue with what you have already decided about me.
good post with solid points.


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Just got home from work Evo

The write-up doesn't mention christ0 getting swapped at all so that's weird, I don't know what to make about that.

Unvote Magic

Sterling doing a horrible job.

Vote Evo

Keeping an eye on mr. alcoholic as well
okay.

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so I'm not allowed doing the same as town? how am I supposed to defend myself from lynches? are you honestly this dumb?




same as above.


I'm fine with you guys lynching me though, what has to be done will be done.


vote magic
there was quite a big cap between lawls posts and this, but that's when everyone was getting off my wagon and just made people get back on. anyways, I know this isn't much as I didn't add much content to the multipost, but it did help me get some reads I think.


Town:

big man
rush
doddsy
evo

unsure of:

nov(leaning town)
sxe
kenny(leaning scum)
taylor(leaning town)

scum:

Roger
Rising
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Thought I was scum, Magic, what happened?
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I didn't know we could just post a list.
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sxe_Joy has been pretty pro-town all game imo. at times his scum-meta is easy to tell apart from his town meta.
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all sxe has done this game is repeat what Rush has sad. I actually read over all his posts from this past day phase and he was basically attacking evo because Rush was. I COULD be wrong, if I am then my bad sxe and just prove that you pushing him beforehand and my stance will change, although I do think Evo is town.
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So Magic thought my posts made perfect sense up until he suddenly voted me (cause someone else did first iirc).

And he wonders why I OMGUS'd. Big wagon on you and you try to misdirect onto me when you had no read on me prior.
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actually I didn't and I thought you were scum before then.

you distanced yourself from the lynch(you made counterpoints to this, but mine are just as believable)

youve basically tunneled LC all game.

and you're not expanding on your thoughts, which you should be doing. tell me why you think/thought kapernick is scum and actually add substance to your reads.

others should do the same. it's not exactly hard to post a list of names and to say whether they're town or scum, actually explain why you think such things. I know Rush has explained most of his reads which is why he gave a simple list, that doesn't apply to everyone.
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