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CP I thought you died if you vote? although I guess you were just playing like garbage/joking.

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I'm not going to call someone scum because they made a bad read. LC might be an easy lynch at times but that doesn't mean someone can't have a scum read on you early on.

Magic is good, he was wrong once this game so I'm banking on him being at least 1 for 2. I also don't like Tat's reaction to his wagon at all so I feel even more justified in following Magic.


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The modkill has easily been the biggest thing that's happened all game and I thought going after Doc was either scummy or stupid. So yeah a lot of my posts have been about that part of the game.
this posts make me think you're scum. as town you're usually incompetent and don't care whether you die or not, actually doing things that piss everyone else off and basically getting yourself killed. this is a far cry from that, but I'm willing to let this continue as attacking a player for being competent is pretty stupid.


I'm wrong a lot(unless I'm vig ), so this isn't exactly true, although when I want someone dead I'm usually right. Early I'm usually more looking for claims then straight up lynches unless the play is really bad and then if the claim doesn't really make a difference for alignment then I'm willing to lynch them.
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I agree with Tat but i'm on Dan for now. Magic is the one who always used to say that if he were the Vig he'd shoot the ones suggesting kills so it's weird for him to be giving the Vig 'suggestions' for kills, that's ignoring the fact he picked two Townies. LC wasn't even scummy, she was doing her usual which Magic would usually see as Town. There are also other odd things he's done this game, like his defense of Ziggler in spite of the evidence against him and in spite of not having actually done his research. Pretty sure Tat is Town now
Magic is also the player who's emphasized in past games that the Vig should only shoot someone on night 1 if he has a very strong scum read on a player since he's more likely to shoot town. So his move to have you or LC shot is a blatant inconsistency with his Town game since he can't read you two well enough to even "suggest" that the vig shoot either of you. Pretty sure this is scum Magic.

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I don't see three prs in this game so it's either you or Clover. Magic flipping scum would give us two more scum players in Rush and Impulse.

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can we skip day? i have no interest in this one. tat should keep my name out her mouth, people die when they find me suspicious.

no one is an expert at reading me for the simple fact that looking town isn't a part of my scum game.
my game is about delay, delay, delay, and leaving minimum materials to build a case b/c i can shoot down a gut or hunch.
I'm not afraid to die, Imp.

Looking town is a part of your scum game. You looked town to me at the start with a couple of posts, I was thinking you were Town then I noticed that LC and Chr1st0 were pretty sure you were scum then I was able to catch myself because normally whenever you convince me with a couple of posts that you're town since your posts make you look town, you're scum.

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i took note of KAPERNICK's soft defense of tat. it was well disguised but someone will look into it.

fitz whole game is centered around the modkill. if i could vote him i would just to get him talking about something else.

if i was voting someone b/c they were inactive i would go after big man. he's a competent scum player and draws it a lot compared to others so it would be a safe shot in the dark.

sterling and maverick are town.

in defense of magic which will come back to bite me, croft does some mind boggling stupid shit as town that gets better players to jump all over her. she also isn't as incompetent as y'all make her out be.

where's the magical wagon that was so suppose to happen on me for day two? christo didn't take the chance when he had it and croft is dead. i guess he doesn't think i'm scum.
Stax openly defended the wagon forming against me for not being active enough for those player's liking since he could recognize the basis of the lynch was weak. He hasn't been hiding an agenda which is evident in his posts.

Your desire to go for Big Man makes no sense. He's been nearly completely inactive this game which he doesn't do as scum. Since he's a competent scum player and likes to be a scum, I think he's more active and makes it more of a point to appear town. His scum game comes across as more town than his town game since with the latter he doesn't care about his appearance at all which is why he sometimes ends up being a mislynch.

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tat's case sounds like a political speech. I find it very amusing.



and your original case against me was that I should have a better case than just a safe vote? Nah, it's the fact it's day 2 with noone that had any good interactions flipping on night one so I'm going with the person that has most been off to me. You have a life, that's great, that doesn't mean you can't post a bunch when youre on. I get about 20 posts in about a span of 90 minutes, this shit isn't hard guys.



and doc I say people that try to direct the vig should be killed. Are people honestly overblowing this that much? What I said is literally the equivalently of "we should lynch lc or doc tomorrow". It simply means I think they're scum.


also tat my scum game>my town game. I can makes cases out of nothing when I'm scum and I really don't give a shit against who it is because my objective is to eliminate them all. So if you think I'm scum for not having a better case then your theory makes no sense at all. try harder.
Magic, you're not coming across condescending enough here. In the past when I've pushed against you where I was town and you were town you became very condescending and you yourself have said that a difference between your town and scum games is that you're less condescending when people push against you when you're scum.

Your vote against me isn't a safe vote at all. It's a scum vote. First you say it's because I've been inactive now it's because I'm off? You're kidding yourself, scum Magic, with even trying to push me. The reason Doc and Faraday buddied me as scum in your game is because there's too much of a disparity between my two games for any scum team to push a believable case against me. Yeah, my scum game suffers because of this but something has to give and I'm okay with that. In your case your town game is really strong and your usually town so when you suggest that the Vig shoot two townies on Night 1 that's a pretty blatant scum tell. In other words your town GOATness has bit you in the ass this game. I find that amusing.

Keep going with the manipulating and backtracking. It just makes you more obvious as scum.

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and she's usually MORE active is my point. I had the same point in that other game where she was just lurking and not posting. she had scum tendencies and IMP knows that best. she only likes to interact with certain people when she's scum.
I'm pretty sure this activity level is about right for my recent town games. I ain't going to bother and check. I've been interacting with whoever I've felt like this game. You still have absolutely nothing of substance against me. Try harder, Magic.

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and everything you said is an elaborate "OMGUS VOTE". come on now.


shit, if I wasn't so lazy I would actually go back in old games and show her posts where you said we shouldn't lynch top tier players for something so little which is exactly where you're trying to do.
I've noticed a blatant inconsistency with your town and scum meta. There's nothing little about that. You need to be pushed for a claim.

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lulz, no I wouldn't. Tat is somewhat right in her theory that I find it hard to read LC as her play is pretty ass fuck backwards(her scum play is actually easier to read iirc), but that doesn't mean I can't try to read her which is basically what tat was suggesting.
Here you go again with your manipulation. Where did I say or imply that you can't try to read her? My case against you is that you have difficulty reading LC so you suggesting that the vig preferably shoot her, esp. when she didn't appear to be scum as Doc has pointed out, is inconsistent with your town play in directing the Vig. When you direct the Vig as town you tell the Vig to shoot the person and it's only for someone you know without a doubt you can read correctly each time when they're scum. The player I've seen you direct the Vig to shoot more than any other player is Impulse. So if you flip scum you're bringing him down with you. Not to mention the points LC and Chr1st0 have already made against Imp.
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LC didn't make any points against IMP, please don't encourage her. I love her but the way she plays mafia rustles my jimmies.
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pot and kettle spring to mind, I don't give a shit about the pressure you are supposedly putting on me. What is odd about not voting for someone when a) you know you're not going to be around for most of the day to push it through and b) knowing everyone else is too set in a structure to bother following it anyway.

It was 1 throwaway post early in the game and you still haven't shut up about it. As scum you like to pick one thing and do that the entire game (day 1) until you get fed up and then just not bother and this thread of thought seems like such an instance to me.
Okay, it was Chr1st0 who made the point and LC agreed.

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I've noticed that's Imp's defense mechanism as scum, for whatever it's worth.

CP, you can read her like a book right? Didn't you have a town read on her early?
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Bigman is generally inactive regardless of alignment recently, he was scum in fallout and didn't really post in that one.

IMP are you completely voteless?

No thoughts on having 6/7 votes on you tat?
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Magic is also the player who's emphasized in past games that the Vig should only shoot someone on night 1 if he has a very strong scum read on a player since he's more likely to shoot town. So his move to have you or LC shot is a blatant inconsistency with his Town game since he can't read you two well enough to even "suggest" that the vig shoot either of you. Pretty sure this is scum Magic.

Stax openly defended the wagon forming against me for not being active enough for those player's liking since he could recognize the basis of the lynch was weak. He hasn't been hiding an agenda which is evident in his posts.

Your desire to go for Big Man makes no sense. He's been nearly completely inactive this game which he doesn't do as scum. Since he's a competent scum player and likes to be a scum, I think he's more active and makes it more of a point to appear town. His scum game comes across as more town than his town game since with the latter he doesn't care about his appearance at all which is why he sometimes ends up being a mislynch.


Magic, you're not coming across condescending enough here. In the past when I've pushed against you where I was town and you were town you became very condescending and you yourself have said that a difference between your town and scum games is that you're less condescending when people push against you when you're scum.

Your vote against me isn't a safe vote at all. It's a scum vote. First you say it's because I've been inactive now it's because I'm off? You're kidding yourself, scum Magic, with even trying to push me. The reason Doc and Faraday buddied me as scum in your game is because there's too much of a disparity between my two games for any scum team to push a believable case against me. Yeah, my scum game suffers because of this but something has to give and I'm okay with that. In your case your town game is really strong and your usually town so when you suggest that the Vig shoot two townies on Night 1 that's a pretty blatant scum tell. In other words your town GOATness has bit you in the ass this game. I find that amusing.

Keep going with the manipulating and backtracking. It just makes you more obvious as scum.


I'm pretty sure this activity level is about right for my recent town games. I ain't going to bother and check. I've been interacting with whoever I've felt like this game. You still have absolutely nothing of substance against me. Try harder, Magic.


I've noticed a blatant inconsistency with your town and scum meta. There's nothing little about that. You need to be pushed for a claim.


Here you go again with your manipulation. Where did I say or imply that you can't try to read her? My case against you is that you have difficulty reading LC so you suggesting that the vig preferably shoot her, esp. when she didn't appear to be scum as Doc has pointed out, is inconsistent with your town play in directing the Vig. When you direct the Vig as town you tell the Vig to shoot the person and it's only for someone you know without a doubt you can read correctly each time when they're scum. The player I've seen you direct the Vig to shoot more than any other player is Impulse. So if you flip scum you're bringing him down with you. Not to mention the points LC and Chr1st0 have already made against Imp.
I don't recall saying that. others have said that, I believe the vig should shoot every night. idk, maybe I am contradicting myself, but I don't see the point of the town killer killing when that's his role.

@ you saying I should be more condescending. You seem to know a lot of what I've said in the past.

town GOATness? I haven't been really good as town in a long time, well in terms of catching people consistently. I still have good games every now and then, but my scum game>town game. I really think you're overrating me. Then again, I don't take compliments very well, it kind of ruins me being arrogant if people agree.

I manipulate both as town and scum. That's how you play mafia. I'm generally a manipulative person, in both real life and this game, it's WHO I AM.


You've noticed an inconsistency eh? I've heard that countless times. If you aren't scum, then I can't wait for your reaction as to when I flip.

I NEVER DIRECTED THE VIG. I GAVE MY SUGGESTIONS. DIRECTING =/= SUGGESTING. Seriously, why don't people understand this? There is a major difference for me outright telling the vig to shoot someone and trying to force their hand and me saying I think the vig should shoot LC/Doc.
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CP, you can read her like a book right? Didn't you have a town read on her early?
Yes to both but why does this matter? LC died and flipped town.
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Her style of mafia doesn't work. although she usually is competent enough to make good reads the way she pushes her reads never actually results in anything.
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I hope Titania isn't saying that LC flipping town lends legitimacy to her posts. That would be VINTAGE LadyCroft.

I mean yeah it shows they were genuine compared to say if she flipped scum, but it doesn't mean they were at all correct.
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[quote=chr1st0;12328531]Bigman is generally inactive regardless of alignment recently, he was scum in fallout and didn't really post in that one.

IMP are you completely voteless?

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WTF? I didn't know I had that many on me. How many needed for a lynch?

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I don't recall saying that. others have said that, I believe the vig should shoot every night. idk, maybe I am contradicting myself, but I don't see the point of the town killer killing when that's his role.

@ you saying I should be more condescending. You seem to know a lot of what I've said in the past.

town GOATness? I haven't been really good as town in a long time, well in terms of catching people consistently. I still have good games every now and then, but my scum game>town game. I really think you're overrating me. Then again, I don't take compliments very well, it kind of ruins me being arrogant if people agree.

I manipulate both as town and scum. That's how you play mafia. I'm generally a manipulative person, in both real life and this game, it's WHO I AM.


You've noticed an inconsistency eh? I've heard that countless times. If you aren't scum, then I can't wait for your reaction as to when I flip.

I NEVER DIRECTED THE VIG. I GAVE MY SUGGESTIONS. DIRECTING =/= SUGGESTING. Seriously, why don't people understand this? There is a major difference for me outright telling the vig to shoot someone and trying to force their hand and me saying I think the vig should shoot LC/Doc.
You've said it on more than one occasion. You dumb down your play and your memory suddenly becomes shit when you're scum. Your reasoning was that he's more likely to kill town than scum on night 1 so unless he has a strong scum read he shouldn't shoot.

When players, esp. good players, give me their meta tells I remember them since I can use that to catch them.

Magic, you've been awesome as town in all the recent games you've played in. I don't think I'm underrating you one bit.

I supposed that's a major reason you're good at mafia and can influence people pretty easily to follow you.

I can't wait for you to flip.

Yeah, you didn't "direct" the Vig this time but merely made suggestion because you knew you were more likely directing him to kill two townies unless one of them turned out to be an Indy.
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