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Old 06-12-2012, 03:03 AM   #1201 (permalink)
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^if he didnt use his role I don't think it goes on BOSS and only scum wouldn't his their BG on a lightning rod.

actually leaving a bg alive means we can force him to protect our info roles when they are exposed. if they die then he would obviously be considered scum so if he was mafia he obviously couldn't take the risk of letting those players be killed. it would also become quite apparent if he was scum depending on how long he would last because scum never wants to leave a bg alive late as it means they can't kill their biggest threat.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:04 AM   #1202 (permalink)
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How would a rolestopper be easily identified? Genuine question I've never been in a game with one before.

Does it stop every town role or every role other than killing roles? Because there was only two kills in the write-up iirc so wouldn't it seem more likely that is what happened?
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Shep the reason I'm getting LOLMAD over this is because CP the seemingly most obviously scum player in the game so far is the one leading the lynch and town and everybody is just going along with it. Town has been getting massacred in recent games and with people playing like this it's no wonder.

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Old 06-12-2012, 03:08 AM   #1205 (permalink)
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is alco scum? i dont want to leave a question mark over him b/c he coasts to endgame easily
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town should lynch alco in any game where he gets anywhere close to end game. always.

also too many bad players, evo, which is why town has been losing so easily. the players that always make it to end game are terrible; they really need to improve otherwise mafia winning every game will become a common thing.
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How are people still not getting this?!? Flash tried to BG himself and was told he couldn't use his role on BOSS. Multiple people have now indicated they received the same (or a similar) message, suggesting Flash isn't the only one who was blocked for some reason (Rolestopper is still my guess).
People saying there is no other explanation apart from 'Flash is scum' are ignoring all of the posts where people have tried to explain other scenarios where this may happen. Frankly i'd be more suss if Flash's role was the only one which appeared to go through (besides the kills).
I really don't care if people think i'm scum for defending him whatever he flips. If he flips Town I hope you do lynch me for having a better read than most because I won't want any part of another terrible Town performance
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The rolestopper stops every role other than the mafia factional kill on the night it is used, but as it appears 2 kills went through. And I didn't read anything confirming it from the players who were involved in the PM conversation. IMP brought it up a couple of times, but Scumbag kept is quiet.

In theory, a rolestopper would be easily identified if an investigative role didn't get the result they were expecting. This can be put forth easily into the context of something else. I didn't see anything of the sort. And no, I'm not asking informative roles to come forward.

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scum will both push this and defend this. it's likely to go through anyway so if anything scum will have pushed it early to make sure it goes through and then when it picked up steam scum who hadn't gotten on the wagon would use the chance to shout @ us for it. im no good at seeing who the scum doing it is though since town players would do the exact same depending on who it is.
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also if the lightning rod attracts ALL roles surely it would have attracted the bg even if it was scum. or was it just all roles people decided to use that night. idk
Usually it is only the roles that are used that night. Can confirm that such was the case last night too (if the lightning rod did in fact go through).
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ftr i don't support this lynch but i dont exactly plan on getting all high and mighty over it since he would be a distraction (not to me but some people would have constantly insisted on pushing him)
Don't like this either.
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That was a heck of a lot to go through.


Now that is rude.



Okay, it appears we need to talk. I wasn't aware that you were upset with me. Remember, it's just a game. Magic, I'm sorry that I tunnelled you the last two games and helped to get you killed. MY BAD. It was nothing personal. Yes, I've been playing badly as town lately but I'm aware that I need to not tunnel nor just lynch people because I want the game to move forward. Don't worry, I'm not going to tunnel you in this game. I feel bad about it.


Why claim your role on day 1 when there's no pressure on you?



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How is it my best day, Shep? I hope you're town so you'll prevent me from getting Magic or myself killed if he's town as well, not to mention other people who can't read me at all.


I think the reasoning behind the Flash wagon was really poor and it sucks that the BG has been outed already. Watcher on him so Flash can protect a strong player that's playing obvious town. I don't think the Rising post was a scum slip, that's just Rising. I don't like Boss' play so far, how he apparently claimed with no pressure on him and how he's been wagon jumping.

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Question: Has anyone seen that Lightning Rod role as a scum role before? Just wondering.
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Wow, that was a lot to catch up on, again.



I feel like you're overdoing this. It reminds me of something you said/your behavior in Jobbers where you were scum.

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I don't like the reasoning that we should lynch Flash, who's claimed BG and hasn't been counterclaimed, just because he'll be a distraction all game. Remember, a person can only be a distraction if you choose to make them that. Given the speed at which his wagon took off on day 1, the reasoning behind it, and his play today it seems like he's more likely to flip town than scum. I think he should just be left alone because it's too much of a risk to lynch the BG this early in the game. If he's town scum will have to shoot him at night because he'll stand between them and power roles/players.

I don't like Haystacks play today and how hard he's been trying to push Flash's lynch through.

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He better flip scum.
seems like you're wagon hopping a lot
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this all means nothing btw, I believe he's been hammered.
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