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The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

I've talked about this a few times before - I don't understand why the WWE have, for some reason, completely stopped all forms of men-on-women and most forms of women-on-men action in the WWE.

This isn't UFC or any form of MMA, where beating the fuck out of someone is the whole point - professional wrestling is entertainment; a scripted sport; an artform; the physical contact is mutually agreed to (likely in their contracts too), so it's not like a guy slapping a woman for entertainment purposes is going to get anyone in trouble... right?

Well, it seems that WWE management is too scared to add some form of cross-gender physicality, whether it be an in-ring match; which maybe over the top, because cross-gender matches are fairly boring; but more importantly, just a little notable physicality - a push, or a slap.

Countless times in just the last year I have watched Raw and thought "Wow, WWE missed yet another opportunity to get [superstar] some major heat by smacking [diva] at least once." From Bryan and AJ, to Big E and Kaitlyn, all the way to Brie and Orton, which happened on the most recent Raw.

There are very little instances of a diva raising their hand to a superstar in the last few years, and the last time we saw a superstar lay a finger on a diva was when Kharma (who was basically booked like a man in the womens division anyway) was eliminated from the Royal Rumble; and if we were to look at the last time it happened before then, we'd have to travel back some time.

Brie Bella and Randy Orton made me realise how incredibly pathetic it is that the WWE clearly do not want even the slightest physicality between men and women.

Orton is failing hard at being the number one heel in the company - he's rarely getting boos, and often the cheers and screams of little girls and lonely women drown out the boos that he should be getting. And if the WWE are so set on putting Brie Bella into the picture to use her as sympathy for Bryan or whatever their plan is, why not get her physically involved?

Brie yelling at Orton, playing a semi-deranged and increasingly-psychopathic narcissist; a heel; made no sense at all.

WWE definitely, without a single doubt in my mind, should have booked Brie to get physically involved in the situation, by trying to stop Orton from assaulting Bryan. After a few moments of staring blankly at her, Orton should have pushed her aside, slapped her aside, or even RKO'd her and went back to Bryan without thinking of the consequences.

There are zero cons to having this happen. The only bad thing that would happen is some random self-entitled "womens rights" group would complain about a man's physicality towards a woman, but really, who cares? All that WWE would have to say is that it's a fucking act - it's scripted television and all parties mutually agreed and it was fine.

Ultimately, a single slap or one of the most simplest and safest manoeuvres in the WWE, the RKO, from Orton to Brie would have done wonders for Randy Orton, Brie Bella, Nikki Bella, Daniel Bryan, the WWE title, the male division, the diva division, the ratings, the popularity, the company and everyone involved, bar maybe the people who would have to deal with the handful of over-sensitive complaints.

Orton would finally get some (semi)well-deserved boos from the crowd, who would likely feel more sympathetic towards both Bryan and Brie - who would also get some form of backing in her match against AJ at Battleground.

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So, regardless of whether you read the post or not - what do you think about cross-gender physicality, and WWE's stance on it? Should it be done once and a while, or never at all?
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Re: The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

The Rko is not the safest move to perform.

I see where your coming from but its not needed. It will get some unwanted attention whether its fake or not. The product isn't going to go back to being as edgy as it once was and guys hitting girls isn't really entertainment. I can see how it would develop storylines and add some seriousness to it but that's not going to change, atleast for the time being..

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Re: The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

It sounds good in theory, but I doubt that it will ever happen.
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Re: The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

Not in my house.

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Re: The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

Randy should of hit Brie in the head with a steel chair for that horrible acting.



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Re: The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

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The Rko is not the safest move to perform.

I see where your coming from but its not needed. It will get some unwanted attention whether its fake or not. The product isn't going to go back to being as edgy as it once was and guys hitting girls isn't really entertainment. I can see how it would develop storylines and add some seriousness to it but that's not going to change, atleast for the time being..
I'd say the RKO is one of the safest manoeuvres to receive. It's just a back bump for the guy delivering it and a front bump for the person taking it. I know Orton doesn't pull peoples' heads down when he does the cutter so he does it safe and well.

Yea, I know it isn't really necessary, but nothing really is anyway. I just look at them as missed opportunities because the WWE is too afraid to get some backlash from the handful of delusional women's rights groups that get offended by anything - yet backlash from every fan under the sun is okay.

When Trish and Lita were at their peak, the women's division was at it's peak. They were popular, not only for often dressing skimpily and having dedicated time on the card, but because they were actually paired up with men in smart storylines where the women were more than just a manager who did nothing.

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It sounds good in theory, but I doubt that it will ever happen.
Why do you think? I think WWE are scared like I mentioned above.

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Randy should of hit Brie in the head with a steel chair for that horrible acting.

Better than Kaitlyn.
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Re: The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

The sponsors and USA network don't allow it.

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Re: The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

I'm torn... for instance I fail to see the difference in message between having Kane stalk and terrify Eve a couple of years ago, and performing a wrestling move on a woman who is trained to take bumps. One is saying it's ok to have sadistically stalking a woman as entertainment in a TV show, while saying it's not ok to conduct a safe wrestling move on another professional.

I think there is room for intimidation and definitely matches between men and women. Slater vs Lita was cool, Beth in the Rumble was good, and nobody can say Kaitlyn, Natalya, Kharma, Chyna, etc. would not be able to pull off decent matches with men on rare occasions.

Slapping women and throwing punches is most definitely not acceptable even in the sports entertainment industry. Big difference between that kind of message and bodyslamming a professional.
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The sponsors and USA network don't allow it.
The sponsors and USA network are over-sensitive, whiny, hypocritical bigots. Unsurprising the [b]USA[b] network is like that, considering America, because of "POLITICS" is maybe the most over-sensitive, feminist-rage-fearing place on the damn planet.

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Slapping women and throwing punches is most definitely not acceptable even in the sports entertainment industry. Big difference between that kind of message and bodyslamming a professional.
It's scripted, pretend violence. It's acting; telling a story. It's nonsensical if the crazy guy who inflicts pain on any adult - even men in their sixties - is sympathetic to a being because they're a woman, right?

Actually, a punch in NA style wrestling would hurt less than a body slam btw.
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Re: The Lack of Cross-Gender #ACTION

I agree with you. When Ziggler was against AJ, it was embarassing to watch. The guy was World Champ but he can't just hit a woman, this is ridiculous. And it will be a problem for Stephanie McMahon because unlike Vince and Triple H, nobody will be able to hit her, she will be untouchable...
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