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Re: Meltzer: "CM Punk is not nearly the star everyone thinks he is"

Can't wait to hear Punks butthurt reference to this in his next promo.
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crowd cheers pretty heavily for him, just look at last week, crowd weren't into anything really(even daniel bryan didn't get a good reaction) then when Punk and Lesnar went at it, the whole crowd was electric! the pop punk got when he smashed lesnar with the chair was huge! People want to see him, he is a star.





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As if he's responsible for the buyrate. He wasn't even on Raw to promote the match and a Jericho/Punk match is not anything special as it has been 2 times on PPV and another one on Raw. Plus there was still doubt if he was going to show up or not. And he was only away for a month.

He may not be a huge star but this certainly ain't enough to prove that.
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crowd cheers pretty heavily for him, just look at last week, crowd weren't into anything really(even daniel bryan didn't get a good reaction) then when Punk and Lesnar went at it, the whole crowd was electric! the pop punk got when he smashed lesnar with the chair was huge! People want to see him, he is a star.
Pops don't mean anything in the long run. Hulk Hogan's old decrepit ass gets huge pops on Impact. But he doesn't do jack shit for ratings.

TV ratings, buyrates, and merch sales are all indicators of how big a star someone really is. And that's what Dave is talking about here.

Since it was heavily promoted as Punk's first match after a long time off, it should have done a much better buyrate. If so many people really liked him so much.

I would almost guarantee that if Cena was held off tv for a couple of months, then his return was heavily hyped to be on a PPV, the buyrate would go up.

And I say that as someone who is a huge fan of Punk and not too big of a Cena fan.
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Re: Meltzer: "CM Punk is not nearly the star everyone thinks he is"

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Well he's right.

Punk is basically your Chris Jericho type of talent.
This is true.

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Sure Meltzer doesn't like CM Punk. He's not Japanese and doesn't wrestle in AJPW/NJPW/NOAH. How can people still take Meltzer seriously?

Here are matches he rated 5 stars (what I posted in Puro thread):

Lucha libre: 5 matches
USA: 27 matches
Puro: 65 matches!
Butthurt much? Maybe because your precious lucha is omitted?

And he rated two matches of Punk five stars, btw.

Now I see why were you in the red for such a long time.



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If cm punk was japanese hed be a legend and every match would be five stars

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Punk is the type of dude that would be considered an amazing upper mid carder back in the day but not really a HUGE star. But the roster being reduced to what it is today, he's considered the best thing going. It's pretty easy for people not to buy into Punk when they first start out, but after a while he'll grow on people if you watch.
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Why do people keep reporting what Dave Meltzer says? His opinion doesn't mean shit.
The OP doesn't like Punk, probably why he posted this.


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Direct quotes from Dave Metlzer below on Payback's buyrate and CM Punk:

"Punk's first match from Mania"

"If a guy really is a superstar and he is out for two and a half months his first match, if he really is a superstar, should mean something"

"He is a star who can't draw"

"What you're telling me is he can't draw nationally"


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Re: Meltzer: "CM Punk is not nearly the star everyone thinks he is"

Well it's true. If you listen to the shows then you'd know that Dave think he's arguably the biggest star they have right now other than Cena but the numbers don't lie. He doesn't change numbers in a big way. If a massive star like Rock or Austin in their full time run took months off and their first appearance back was at a PPV then that PPV would do a big increase in buys. Punk's a big star to a certain market but he's not a big star to all markets. I'd say he's a big star to wrestling fans but the really big stars who move numbers are big stars to wrestling fans who don't buy most PPVs anyway. That's what seperates the Cena's and Rock's from the Punk's and Jericho's.

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