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Old 07-22-2013, 05:03 PM   #11 (permalink)
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If you want to see television attack white people, and make fools out of white people, isn't there plenty of other places to see that?
MTV, BET, talk shows, Jerry Springer, MSNBC, etc?

Should the WWE find four 130 pound men to attack people like hyenas from behind until Mark Henry squashes them all?

Will that make all the racists happy in the WWE audience?
White supremacist groups do a great job of that themselves
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Old 07-22-2013, 05:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Default Re: Has a wrestling organisation ever done a neo nazi gimmick?

Heidenreich (remember that guy?) had rumoured origins that he was an SS soldier cryogenically frozen and thawed out to the present day. He also did the infamous Cole rape segment back in '05, so technically it happened.
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...d-to-hospital/



Yeah, if only they could be more like these people.
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How about we have a Trayvon supporter stable and then can shoot innocent teenagers at gas stations and attack old ladies.
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I think The Real Americans are gonna be as close as you're gonna get in these PG times to a neo-nazi gimmick.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What would he do? Create jobs for millions of people, build an autobahn, innovate new state of the art technologies and transform a disastrous economy into the envy of the Western world?

Not sure that would get over with the American people.
Before you go on spreading a bunch of half-truths about one of the worst regimes in history and making some asinine comments on the Trayvon Martin case, you should maybe log off and read a book. Several, in fact. Go, you've got work to do. /rant

Almost every German wrestler who has a modicum of success in America gets a gimmick at some point that plays with Nazi imagery and equally tiresome stereotypes about Germans (Militarism, efficiency, delusions of superiority, pseudo-Nietzschean babble, etc.). Just look at what they did to Alex Wight when they gave him the atrocious "Berlyn" gimmick back in the day. (And yet, British fans think they have it bad...)

Needless to say, I don't enjoy it at all. Maybe I'm not edgy enough, maybe it's because of my Jewish background, but using the Nazis as a prop to provide some cheap entertainment is just crossing the line for me. It's not enlightening, it's not entertaining, it's just dumb. Having Swagger and Coulter spout their bigoted anti-immigrant rhetoric is fine, but it shouldn't go that far.
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Before you go on spreading a bunch of half-truths about one of the worst regimes in history and making some asinine comments on the Trayvon Martin case, you should maybe log off and read a book. Several, in fact. Go, you've got work to do. /rant

Almost every German wrestler who has a modicum of success in America gets a gimmick at some point that plays with Nazi imagery and equally tiresome stereotypes about Germans (Militarism, efficiency, delusions of superiority, pseudo-Nietzschean babble, etc.). Just look at what they did to Alex Wight when they gave him the atrocious "Berlyn" gimmick back in the day. (And yet, British fans think they have it bad...)

Needless to say, I don't enjoy it at all. Maybe I'm not edgy enough, maybe it's because of my Jewish background, but using the Nazis as a prop to provide some cheap entertainment is just crossing the line for me. It's not enlightening, it's not entertaining, it's just dumb. Having Swagger and Coulter spout their bigoted anti-immigrant rhetoric is fine, but it shouldn't go that far.
So it is bigoted to be against people who are not in this country legally? Also, there were a lot of Germans who helped make significant contributions in the space program post World War II.
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Since that would ban their show from airing in Germany/Austria, and that is a big enough market for Vince, that he will not do it, and btw Piper says hallo as well as every german speaking wrestler ever who had to make a quick "german" gig in boots and baseball bat)
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tna has a neo nazi wrestler right now

hes called MANIK
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So it is bigoted to be against people who are not in this country legally?
Not per se, but at least until recently, it was pretty clear that Colter & Swagger suspected pretty much every single immigrant there is to be an illegal. Which is very bigoted.

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Also, there were a lot of Germans who helped make significant contributions in the space program post World War II.
That's pretty neat for those Germans and the space programs, I guess, but what has this to do with the fact that the Third Reich wasn't a pinnacle of human development and that there were far too many Nazi-esque gimmicks in wrestling?

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