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Old 07-02-2013, 11:24 PM   #141 (permalink)
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as someone who had to live through such angles as "Goldberg refusing to follow the script" and "david arquette wcw champion" I took great pleasure in chanting fire russo in the first and last tna event ill ever go to
You know, you'd think someone who watches WWE in this day and age would have learned to be more forgiving...If anyone can put up with the god awful shit we see today, then how on earth does anyone have the balls to say they can't forgive Russo for his years of shame?

You people follow WWE just like I do. Even without Russo this company is a total cluster fuck. I love it when you say "oh Russo was terrible, Goldberg refusing to follow the script was so bad. David Arquette as WCW champion was the worst thing I've ever seen. Etc, etc." Right, and WWE today is a creative gold mine...

At least be fucking consistent. Guaranteed, I can name something WWE does today that's equally if not more stupid than Russo ever did.

Also, if TNA is so dumb, why did you pay them money to chant fire Russo while in the audience? You seem to be the dumb one...
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:40 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Oh boy! I can't wait for some good old fashioned taser on a pole matches. And I've been salivating over the thought of the Kiss Demon returning. You know what else would be good? Justin Beiber winning the WHC. But, no, what I'm REALLY excited for is seeing more guys just lay down in the main events of more ppvs. Jokes on you if you thought you were getting the match you payed for. Or a match at all. Hahahahaha. Oh, yeah, I forgot about the EXCITING stable wars. When was the last time we had a good stable war with some unpredictable swerves? SWERVE Sheamus is actually with the Thousandaire's Club SWERVE Cody Rhodes was with the New Young Club all along, SWERVE it's Jinder Mahal! He was the leader all along! SWERVE No he wasn't, everyone was actually working together for Vince Russo the writer. Everyone except for..... the KISS DEMON! SWERVE, fuck Vince Russo. And he's a massively egotistical dick to top off his bullshit writing ability.
First off, I'd like to highlight how amusing jabs taken at Vince Russo are when they come from someone who has a picture in their signature highlighting the majority of everything wrong with the WWE and wrestling today...

Second, why are you crediting Russo with the Kiss Demon? The Kiss concert and Demon's debut happened months before Russo ever even wrote his first Nitro...

Third, WCW had a bad reputation for swerving people out of matches on PPV that they paid for. For example, Rick Steiner vs Scott Steiner was advertised for Road Wild 1998, but people were swerved out of that until Fall Brawl 1998...and they were swerved out of it again at that PPV until Halloween Havoc...and they were swerved out of it AGAIN there when the match became Buff Bagwell and Rick Steiner vs Scott Steiner and the Giant. Long before Russo...why doesn't anyone else share this blame with him? I also don't see you crapping on the WWE when they do it (and lord knows, they have).

Shit, people are really quick to throw stones at the guy when there are so many other people and organizations guilty of the same thing...Must I actually point out all of the truly horrendous shit done in the past few years in the WWE without Russo being around to show you that he's not actually Satan? Bad things exist in pro wrestling outside of him, you know.
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:45 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Giving Russo credit for creating The Rock...



This thread is a fucking joke...The Rock got over solely due to his promos, and mic skills.
His rise up the ladder was also booked very well and his first championship program is one of the most memorable feuds in WWE history. The double turn was Russo at his finest.

Guys like Rock and Foley absolutely owe part of their success to Russo. He put them in position to succeed and that's ultimately the writer's job.

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Old 07-02-2013, 11:51 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Okay I'm ending this shit right now, once and for all. Russo was a fucking idiot, still is a fucking idiot. People who say he spearheaded the Attitude Era are fucking idiots. He may have been head writer, but Vince had to sift through all the shit ideas that he gave him to find those rare good ones. Just look at his stint in WCW for instance. Given full creative control of the creative department, WCW shit the bed. It just goes to prove that all of Russo's success can be attributed to Vinnie Mac....and oh yeah, to the wrestlers









Oh wait, I'm sorry. Did you mean this Vince McMahon?

I mean, since we all know his reputation is untarnished...
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Old 07-03-2013, 12:37 AM   #145 (permalink)
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He may have been head writer, but Vince had to sift through all the shit ideas that he gave him to find those rare good ones.
Those "rare ones" were fucking awesome:

1.Austin vs McMahon:The greatest storyline/rivalry


2.DX


3.The Rise of Rock and Mankind


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Old 07-03-2013, 07:22 AM   #146 (permalink)
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The WWE will NEVER hire Vince Russo again. He's known for having 100 ideas and only one of them would be great. And LOL at people saying that Russo was the reason for The Rock and Austin getting big.
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:39 AM   #147 (permalink)
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The WWE will NEVER hire Vince Russo again. He's known for having 100 ideas and only one of them would be great. And LOL at people saying that Russo was the reason for The Rock and Austin getting big.
And that one idea will still be better than anything Heyman can ever think of.

I have said it before and I'll say it again. A Vince McMahon/Triple H supervised Russo can mine more gems than Heyman or Cornette can ever pull out. A productive Russo output IS must-see TV whereas Heyman's is strictly geared towards the purists.
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Old 07-03-2013, 09:13 AM   #148 (permalink)
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my gosh

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For all you guys out there that desperately want a change in the product, to see more divserse storylines and characters, I have news for you... its not gonna happen. Not until Vince Russo is rehired.
I think you mean, Not until the WWE gets delisted from Wallstreet

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The storylines... sure you saw stupid shit from time to time but Russo's mentality has always been "if it gets you talking, if it gets you to stay on the channel, then its a job well done" and I agree with him. How many times have you fast forwarded through Raw these days or even changed the channel?

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yeah this is before a ot of us found out that in order for something done for the sake of expoitation to change is has to stop fulfilling the ulterior motivated goal of money and or what not

the ends don't always justify the means, especially when the result of which means a chance has been lost to do something positive

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Sure he has made mistakes .
some mistakes, this guy has made many more misses than hits, and all those misses he expected the public to pay full price for, so yeah nice try

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The internet isn't always right and you can't argue with the statistics and his success. .
if one can argue Al Quedas success then a case can be made against Mr Russo

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The internet isn't always right .
for f*** sakes, THIS ISN'T THE EARLY NINTIES, THE "INTERNET" CAN'T BE GENERALISED ANYMORE

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Remember "This is your life"? Vince Russo wrote that entire segment. And it gained an 8.2 rating. And guess what? Everyone on the internet hated it.
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i'd love to go on a rant about this but "This Is Your Life" is a legit thing people do outside of entertainment so i'll give it somewhat of a pass

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but what they don't understand is that Vince Russo made Stone Cold. Vince Russo made The Attitude Era. .
that is debateable at best my friend and if Vince Russo did then why hasn't he made anything like it since? can you answer me that?

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Old 07-03-2013, 09:26 AM   #149 (permalink)
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crediting russo with the creation of all those characters is a massive insult to the guys who make wrestling so great

maybe he can get credit for the storylines, especially back then when some creative flexibility existed, was always the wrestler's thing. it always has been dating back to the territory era

now admittedly i dont know much about Rock's character, but Stone Cold was all self created. He invented the name. he cut the major promo. he borrowed habits from sandman who HE WORKED WITH in ECW

Likewise with Shawn Michaels. All he did was take his backstage persona and put it on screen. Vince Russo didnt invent degeneration X. Shawn just happened to be a massive fucking degenerate who had zero respect for the rules and enjoyed fucking around

Undertaker was always the dead man. And Kane was literally just a rebooking of the original Undertaker character of 1990 with more focus on red and fire. Hell they even shared the same NAME

Even Vince's corporate bad guy character was something he already had in his repertoire from his days when he worked in memphis
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:02 AM   #150 (permalink)
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First, and foremost Steve Austin came up with the anti-hero gimmick while in ECW, and pitched it to Bischoff while in WCW. Vince did not create the gimmick, and neither did Russo. The Undertaker gimmick had nothing to do with Russo, nor the streak. The Undertaker is the most well known WWE superstar amongst the wrestling community outside of Austin, Hogan, and The Rock. HBK, and HHH along with DX was something that those men took off with on their own. Don't credit Russo. Heyman had nothing, and turned them into something while both companies took his talent. Heyman was a terrible business man, but he has a great wrestling mind.
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