I think that the Savage/Stephanie rumor is one of those rumors that gets believed, simply because it's been repeated so much.
The reason I'm not sure I believe it, is because as far as everything I've heard, Randy was one of the few good guys in the industry, who was completely faithful to his wife. Bret has said that as far as he knew, Randy was completely true to Elizabeth, and Warrior alluded to the fact that Randy was a standup husband in this regard.
Now he and Liz separated in the summer of 1992, so that still gives him a time period where he was single while Stephanie was 15 (for a few months). But that's irrelevant, because what I'm saying has nothing to do with me saying that he wouldn't have cheated on Liz with Steph.
I'm mentioning all that stuff about him being a stand up husband, because that suggests something about his character. Usually a guy who is that faithful to his wife, even when he's in a position of being able to have his pick of women...that type of guy is not usually the type of guy who's then gonna go banging 15 year olds when he's 40. You know? Not to mention the unbelievable risk involved, knowing that her dad was his employer.
Of course I'd never put anything past anyone, and I'm as cynical as they come. So though it wouldn't surprise me because of my cynical nature, I still at this point think that it's probably untrue. It's a steamy rumor, so that's probably why it gets spread. I'd love to know the original source. The fact that it's so random does make it more believable to me, but could it have been just a kid having fun at the computer? I wonder how long that rumor has existed.
>reads sensible and well-written post
>looks at join date
mind = blown, green rep to you
"Act 1 and Act 2: they don't mean nothing...the only thing that matters....everyone remembers....... Act 3" - The Rock @ Wrestlemania 19
"262. C.M. Punk started banging Tracy Brooks in TNA but Lucy/Daffney didn't know this while she was in OVW during her WWE dev. deal. So when TNA P-P-Vs were over, he'd go over to OVW land and boink Lucy and then back to Brooks at ROH shows on the weekend. This lasted for a while... until Lucy got let go by WWE at which point she asked him about possibly going back to ROH. Realizing his sharade was about up, he told her that Gabe didn't have any room and then broke up with her. Devastated beyond belief by the shock of losing her WWE deal, getting dumped by her boyfriend and then learning about Tracy Brooks, then getting blocked in ROH, she quit the business."
Honky Tonk Man & Raven confirming/denying some of the Urban Legends
And now Raven and Honky Tonk Man will take a look at some of the “Scumiest Stories In Wrestling” that was made famous of the Death Valley Driver message board a few years ago, adding their insights into whether the stories are true or not. Raven reads the questions and chooses to skip over the ones he doesn’t want to bury anybody with.
#1 Kevin Sullivan vacations at nudist colonies
HTM: Thinks it’s probably true from the time they spent as tag team partners years ago.
Raven: Thinks it’s true because Sullivan had a lot of crazy fashions like wearing sweat pants and cowboy boots every day in WCW.
#2 Tommy Rich Bleached His Pubic Hair
HTM: If he did it wasn’t intentionally.
Raven: Thinks it’s true because “the drapes didn’t match the carpet.” (Ya gotta keep kayfabe, right?)
#3 Tommy Rich Gave A Blowjob To Jim Barnett For The NWA Title
HTM: Thinks it’s definitely false because Tommy Rich was over enough to get the title on his own merits. Honky thinks Rich was the Hulk Hogan of his time.
Raven: Also believes it’s false because it sounds like a rumor a jealous wrestler would start who didn’t get a push.
#4 Virgil Got Hired In The WWE Because Pat Patterson Was Impressed With His Big Dick
HTM: He caught him jerking off two handed in the showers one night so he thinks it‘s probably possible.
Raven: He has seen Virgil’s dick first hand and also thinks it’s true. He says that one time he was talking to Virgil and he said having a massive dick isn’t as good as it sounds because out of the nearly 200 women he had had sex with he could only put his dick in all the way into 2 women.
#5 Gene Kiniski Bought Kevin Von Erich A Hooker In Las Vegas When He Was 12
HTM: Thinks it could be true because most Canadians he knows lost their virginity a lot younger than the Americans he knows so Gene would probably help Kevin out in getting laid young.
Raven: “It’s probably true because he paid the hooker in Canadian money and got her cheaper.”
#6 Kerry Von Erich Killed A Cat Backstage By Tossing A Saw Blade At It
Raven: Thinks it’s possibly true because Kerry was a talented discus thrower.
HTM: “Yeah, but he couldn’t read a cue card, though.”
#7 The Brooklyn Brawler Is Pat Patterson’s Boyfriend
HTM: During his WWF run he saw no evidence that that is true.
Raven: Also didn’t seen any proof while he was with the WWE.
#8 The Rock n Roll Express Walked In On Jimmy Valiant Jerking Off Under A Glass Table As A Hooker Shits On It. Ricky Throws Up And Leaves While Robert Stays To Watch
Raven: Thinks it’s true.
HTM: Thinks Ricky would have liked it and wouldn’t have left.
#9 Dusty Rhodes Had Baby Doll Fired For Marrying Sam Houston
Raven: Dusty admitted to him once that it’s true.
#10 Victor Quiones Raped Tarzan Boy At Gunpoint
HTM: Thinks it’s false because Victor just paid wrestlers money when he wanted to fuck them.
#11 Dusty Rhodes Booked Rick Steiner To Beat Ric Flair At Starrcade In 20 Seconds
Raven: Probably true because Dusty would want to do that to Flair.
#12 Paul Boesch Did A Jewish Champion Gimmick Until A Jewish Magazine Writer Walked In On Him In The Shower And Saw He Wasn’t Circumcised
HTM: Unsure because that was before he was born.
Raven: False because he’s pretty sure Paul never left Texas and there is no way they’d do a Jewish wrestling gimmick there.
#13 Jimmy Snuka Murdered A Woman In A Hotel Room And Vince McMahon Got Him Out Of Charges
HTM: Believes it is 100% false because nobody ever mentioned it in his WWF stay and he’s never seen anything about it other than one magazine article in Penthouse and rumors of it on the internet, neither of which are good sources. The only thing he heard from anybody was that he had a girlfriend who committed suicide by jumping off of a building and that’s how the rumor got started.
Raven: Thinks it sounds like an urban legend. He thinks Jimmy Snuka is too nice to murder anyone.
“You’re right, the quiet nice ones never do it....” - Chris Benoit
#14 Raven Got Caught In A Hotel Room With A 15 Year Old Becky Bayless
Raven: He shared a room one night with Joel Gertner’s wife who allowed then-ECW Rat Bayless to sleep in there as well. Joel Gertner got pissed off that his wife was spending time with Raven and called the cops to claim Raven was having sex with a 15 year old to get revenge. Raven got interrogated about it but then let him go because they believed he was innocent a few hours later.
HTM: “You did break in at Lawler’s territory!”
#15 Sabu Ate Out A Valet In A Indie Show Locker Room And When A Fellow Wrestler Asked Him If It Was Good He Said “Smell My Moustache”
HTM: False because Sabu is always outside smoking weed and never in locker rooms.
#16 Johnny Valentine Hid Shit In Every Hotel Room He Stayed At
Raven: Has heard that is true.
HTM: It’s probably true, and he caught Greg pissing inside of hotel ice chests which made him never want to take hotel ice again.
#17 Shawn Michaels Brought Three Rats Back To His Hotel Room, Ordered Them To Get On Their Knees, Pulled Out His Dick And Pissed In Their Mouths
HTM: “Marty Jannetty would do that.”
#18 Bruiser Brody Was Going To Do A Shoot Run-In On Hulk Hogan At The First Wrestlemania
Raven: False because a shoot run-in is a oxymoron and Brody didn’t care about the WWF enough to want to ruin their show.
HTM: False for the same reason Raven said.
#19 Gagne Offered Iron Sheik $100,000 To Break Hulk Hogan’s Legs During Their WWF Match
Raven: Iron Sheik swears it’s true but he isn’t sure.
HTM: “Maybe if they paid him in gimmick.”
#20 The Clique Shit In Jerry Lawler’s Crown At The 1994 Royal Rumble
HTM: Lawler did get his crown shat in while in the WWF but he isn’t sure if The Clique did it.
Raven: True and they sent a memo around to the WWF roster demanding they stop shitting in Jerry Lawler’s crown people did it so much. A lot of people bitter at Lawler for their Memphis pay days were the ones who did it.
#21 Taka Michinoku Fucked Sunny While Chris Candido Watched
Raven: “Well, Candido probably didn’t watch....”
HTM: “Poor Chris. Good guys finish last or they die first. And Jake Roberts is going to live forever. So will Jim Neidhardt.”
#22 Ronnie P. Gossett Paid To Blow Buff Bagwell
HTM: False, but Gossett has done things like that to other wrestlers, but not Buff.
Raven: Agrees it is false.
#23 Wolfie D Was Selling PG-13 Pictures That Bill Dundee Demanded Money From And Wolfie Pulled A Knife On Him
HTM: Doesn’t believe Wolfie would pull a knife on anybody but JC Ice probably would or maybe Bill pulled a knife on them since he once pulled a gun on Randy Savage.
#24 Moolah And Mae Young Are Lesbian Lovers
HTM: Hopes it’s false because it’s disgusting to think about.
Raven: Loves Moolah & Mae’s work, especially when Mae gave birth to a hand on Raw which he marked out for.
#25 Brian Christopher Tried To Get Eddie Guerrero To Party With Him After Eddie Got Sober
HTM: Possibly true because Brian is a party boy.
#26 Pedro Morales Pawned His WWF Title
HTM: False but Nick Bockwinkel sold the AWA belt in Japan.
#27 Tammy Sytch Likes Having Phone Sex With Indie Workers
HTM: “Tammy isn’t one to phone it in.”
#28 The Colorado Kid Paid To Win The NWA Title
HTM: Probably true because many other champs including Ric Flair paid to get some of NWA title runs. And Honky doesn’t blame anybody for doing that because he’d make a deal with Vince to get a title run in exchange for half of his earnings.
#29 Kevin Von Erich Got A Woman To Take 11 Year Old Chris Von Erich’s Virginity
HTM: Probably true because Chris Von Erich was involved in the party scene younger than anybody else he’s ever heard of.
#30 Curt Hennig Shit Under The Ring When He Was Waiting With Scott Norton To Do A Nitro Run-In
Raven: True and it made Norton vomit all over himself.
#31 Bill Watts Pissed Off Of The CNN Towers
HTM: Definitely true.
#32 Eric Bischoff Admitted He Paid For Strippers At Atlanta’s Gold Club To Have Sex With His Wife While He Watched
HTM: True because that court testimony was on the news.
#33 Raven Didn’t Wear Clothes Backstage In TNA Until Someone Complained That Dixie Carter Would See Him Naked
Raven: “True, I am a nudist.”
HTM: Hates it when women or families come into wrestling locker rooms. If you can’t handle male wrestler nudity, stay out of a wrestling locker room.
#34 Steve Austin Had Heat With Raven Because He Walked Around Naked In Front Of Debra And He Thought Raven Was Showing Off In Front Of His Wife
Raven: True but it was unintentional. But even funnier than that was the time he worked a 3PW show and gang bang porn star/owner Jasmine St. Claire got mad at him for being naked in front of her which he thinks is hilarious since she fucked hundreds of men in one day.
HTM: He also worked a show with Jasmine and was with Virgil when Jasmine came in the locker room and he was uncomfortable getting naked in front of her until Honky explained to him who she was.
#35 JBL Tied Up A Wrestler In The Locker Room And Threatened To Rape Him As He Cried As The Locker Room Laughed
Raven: True and the wrestler was Brian Christopher.
HTM: Confirms it was indeed Brian Christopher, but wishes JBL did it to Jerry Lawler.
#36 David Flair Quit IWA Puerto Rico Because Victor Quiones Broke Into His Room And Jerked Off In His Face
HTM & Raven: Unsure.
Rob Feinstein: Thinks it’s true because Ric Flair sought out Victor for a fight when the WWE had a show in Puerto Rico.
#37 Brian Knobbs Was Fined For Farting Near Miss Elizabeth
HTM: True, he was fined $7,000 when Savage flipped out about it. Knobbs didn’t know Savage and Liz were behind him in an airport when he farted on her, making it the most expensive fart ever.
#38 Chris Jericho Beat Up Bill Goldberg In A Backstage Shoot Fight
Raven: True. Goldberg jumped Jericho because he was pissed about something Jericho said about him in a promo and Jericho kept wrestling him to the ground which killed Goldberg’s bad ass status backstage since Jericho isn’t a bad ass and is much smaller than Goldberg.