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Re: 2015 Will Be The Worst Year in Wrestling History

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This is one of the worst topics I have ever seen on the wrestling forum. Complaining about stuff that didn't even happen yet and is ALL based on pure speculation.

No facts to be argued here. It's not a fact Cena will be the top guy in 2015. Why don't one of you start a discussion on whether or not he will be, talk about who might take his place, why it would make sense for that person to be there, why it would draw money ect...

You know, a REAL intelligent discussion.



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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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I wasn't talking about the wrestlers themselves, just the WWE in general. WWE has a shitload of talent that are either booked like ass or not booked at all. You misunderstood what I wrote, pretty much.

Like I said in my prior post, I'm not talking about the wrestlers themselves, just the company. It doesn't matter if you have the talent, they won't know how to use you.
But then the writing would be just as bad two years from now as it is today. So if the future talent is as good as today's, there's no reason to expect it to be worse than it is today. I think the talent coming up is BETTER than the talent today, so with the same writing, it'll be great.

WWE favorites: Punk, Sheamus, Lesnar, Ambrose, Rollins, Reigns,
Del Rio, Orton, Bryan, Ziggler, Wyatt, Usos, Cesaro, Mysterio, Kane
DGPW: Doi, Yoshino, Tozawa, Yamato, Dragon Kid, BxB Hulk, Ricochet, Super Shisa
NJPW: Okada, Nakamura, Styles ROH: Briscoes, Fish and O'Reilly, Young Bucks
All-Time: Rock, Punk, Lesnar, Angle

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The one thing that leaves me clinging on to the WWE is the future stars i've seen on NXT.

Eagerly awaiting Bray Wyatt's debut for example is the only reason i'll contemplate staying up to watch Raw.

Im no font of knowledge about NXT and who is from the indy wrestling scene but a few youtube searches on guys that people on here are creaming their pants for is totally worth it.
Ambrose being the best example. After reading posts on here about how great he is i made a bee line for youtube , saw some promos and couldnt wait for his Raw debut.

Everyone should check NXT out , some really interesting characters.
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Punk has said in multiple interviews that he's not gonna wrestle past his mid-30's because he doesn't wanna be like one of those guys that doesn't know when to quit.

Yes that is an easy solution... now go tell WWE that because it doesn't seem like they're aware that is a solution because they hardly ever turn any of their sucky faces heel.

Brock's contract expires next year. Even if he does sign another one year deal that'll probably be his last. He still wants to get into other sports.

You can't be serious about that Fandango part... if Randy Orton and CM Punk couldn't surpass John Cena there's no chance that someone like Fandango will. Even now, Fandango should be one of the most over guys in WWE just because of the Fandangoing thing (see Daniel Bryan's "Yes" chants last year) yet he still gets a subpar reaction.

Yes they have the talent but they always get held back. Look at Rhodes & Sandow now, two of their most talented workers stuck in an irrelevant jobber feud. The creative team just doesn't know what to do with them. The only guys that ever truly become stars now are the ones who make themselves stars (CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Fandango SHOULD be in this list but he's not)

John Cena himself isn't holding anyone back, but the booking team is. They go out of their way to make sure no one will ever get more over than him. They purposely build superstars up just so John Cena can tear them down. If anyone looks like they're going to surpass him, WWE will hold them back. Ryback is a perfect example. Did you see the ovation Ryback got for attacking Cena? He instantly became the top face of the company just for that moment alone. WWE knew that fans were gonna cheer Ryback more than Cena, they couldn't just have Ryback go into the feud as a face and say "Cena, you have what I want so I'm gonna kick your ass to get it"... no, because it's John Cena that he attacked, that automatically makes him a bad guy... and they didn't even just stop there, they had to go out of their way to get Mick Foley back just so Ryback can get cheap heat to make sure people hate him. They took one of their only stars with the potential to rival Cena and purposely ruined his character to make sure he doesn't get more over than Cena. And you know Cena is gonna beat him at Extreme Rules too, after that Ryback is done. You see the reaction he's getting now? It's not even the good kind of heat, now fans are gonna chant GOLDBERG even louder because now they have a reason to. Hell even when someone starts to get a little popularly, Cena has to step in and use their momentum to get himself over, look at Zack Ryder and AJ Lee. That's what happens to anyone who tries to get on Cena's level, it's been the same for years and it's not gonna change any time soon. Don't even get me started on the amount of heels whose momentum he helped kill (barrett, punk, umaga, kane, ziggler, etc)
Undertaker also said he won't wrestle when he's past his prime. Oh, look at that. As someone else here said, money talks. Punk won't have to be as physical, and they'll pay him a lot of money.

Lesnar is not going back into sports, you're making that up. He has health problems that prevent him from doing MMA, and that's 99% practicing on your own time. The dude's 34 or 35, he's retired. He'll keep with WWE cuz its easy for him to do a couple matches a year.

Orton and Punk are better than Cena, but not as popular, cuz that's just how pro wrestling is sometimes. I literally said I wasn't predicting Fandango was bigger than Cena, but he has just as much of a shot at being the next Cena as Cena did in 2003. If people fall in love with him like so many people did Cena, then Fandango will be big. I know, I know, Cena sucks, you can shove it; evey statistic says Cena's the biggest success in wreslting today, better than Taker and Triple H: ratings, attedance, PPV buys, merchandise. So yes, Fandango COULD be the next Cena, just like a lot of other up-and-coming wrestlers.

Rhodes and Sandows aren't jobbers, they're mid-card heels. You would have called Angle, Jericho, Benoit, and Guerrero jobbers at one point. Give them time, or at least give Sandow time. Sandow's been here a year, he can take some losses. 3MB are jobbers, Sandow and Rhodes aren't.

No, the writing team isn't holding anyone back, and CM Punk of all people has not had his momentum stunted. Wrestling results don't kill wrestlers, if they're great at what they do they'll be popular anyway. Rock didn't have a single win over a major star to make him a major star in 1999-2000, in fact he LOST to Austin in 1999. Did that kill his momentum? No, it didn't, because Rock was entertaining. Did Punk losing to Cena kill his momentum? No, he was entertaining, so he was fine. Cena beat JBL, who wasn't a major star from his generation, but he entertained people. If Austin didn't beat HBK, he would've been fine, too; if you disagree with that, then you're saying the most entertaining star of the last 25 yrs needed one match, and insulting the greatness that was Steve Austin. Entertainment is entertainment. When wrestling was presented as real, results mattered; today its entertainment, and so reboots can reinvigorate a character overnight if the crowd actually gives a shit. The audience went nuts for Daniel Bryan AFTER getting nearly squashed by Sheamus at WrestleMania. Entertainment is entertainment, its that simple. Stop acting like a bunch of shitty wrestlers would be amazing if not for John Cena. I seriously doubt anyone in the audience thinks of John Cena losses when they see Barrett and Miz, they fall asleep because they're not entertaining.

WWE favorites: Punk, Sheamus, Lesnar, Ambrose, Rollins, Reigns,
Del Rio, Orton, Bryan, Ziggler, Wyatt, Usos, Cesaro, Mysterio, Kane
DGPW: Doi, Yoshino, Tozawa, Yamato, Dragon Kid, BxB Hulk, Ricochet, Super Shisa
NJPW: Okada, Nakamura, Styles ROH: Briscoes, Fish and O'Reilly, Young Bucks
All-Time: Rock, Punk, Lesnar, Angle


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- You know this guy isn't going away. We're gonna have to put up with another two years of this crap. You would think it couldn't get much worse but damn just thinking about Cena still being there doing the same crap is irritating. Think of how many more people are gonna get held back by him and how two years from now.
That's the thing, you don't HAVE TO put up with it. All of the fans that the wwe suckers into watching and/or buying their stuff are probably the biggest problem. Instead of giving anything else a chance they choose to be narrow minded and settle for less. It isn't my problem but it's worth throwing that out there.

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Re: 2015 Will Be The Worst Year in Wrestling History

i bet someone in 1996 made a thread bitching about how everything sucks and 1998 will be the worst year ever


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If the IWC got their way, everyone would be heel, and Daniel Bryan would be on tv for 3 hours straight
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