Originally Posted by birthday_massacre
Ziggler is way better than Angle right now. Angle is nearing retirement, Ziggler is just starting. I would much rather have Ziggler on my roster than Angle.
Thank you for your opinoin, lets keep this civil.
I am not saying Ziggler is bad in anyway, lets clear that up. He is amongst the best in WWE at the moment.
Ziggler is not better then Angle, IMO.
His in-ring ability is good, but he bumps far too much, to the point of it just looking horrid & ridiculous. Remember, selling is very much different to what Zig does.
People will say 'HBK does the same' which is correct, he does.
The difference being HBK has bags full of psychology in-ring, he knew/knows when a match warranted it.
Zig, does it every match.
Take the infamous Monkey Flip, all he needed to do to sell it in a decent way is to grimace in pain after the move, maybe hold the small of his back. Gets the point over it hurt him, makes all involved look good.
Instead, we get some ridiculous flips, floundering around like a fish. You have to tell a story in a match, this is what gets people excited. A bump like that takes a potential 4 star match & makes it akin to a circus, over the top for the sake of being over the top.
I have felt Angle's selling to be fairly consistent, while not the best it's good.
I may speak for myself, but, i have lost any interest in the MitB simply because the cash in has taken FAR too long.
You can easily name Angle's gimmicks. American Olympic Hero, which needs no work because thats what he is.
I do not watch TNA all to often, so i can't comment with any certainty in that regard, but it seems to be a kinda 'cyborg' gimmick. Regardless, even during his time with the WWE he showed humour & he is ok/good on the mic, while reshaping himself, allbeit slightly. The focus with Angle, i feel, was/is in-ring ability.
I couldn't even begin to tell you what Zigglers gimmick is. It is lost on me.
Psychology is the single most important thing when it comes to a match, two brawlers can make a match look better then two high-flyers. Selling is incorporated into this. So if you sell far to much, bump far to much or generally make moves look stupid, it ruins the whole match.
I look forward to your response, pal.