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Old 02-17-2013, 07:13 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Except Cena is good in the ring. Sure, he's clumsy, uncoordinated, and sloppy, but he has a great grasp on psychology.
Great storytelling also.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:20 PM   #82 (permalink)
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What I got from this thread is that Trish and Lita were never over.

OK.
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I can see the argument, but I don't believe Trish and Cena are the same. Trish improved tremendously over the years she spent in the WWE. Cena on the other hand, I feel kind of became complacent. I don't feel like he tried to better himself in the ring or with his promo skills. He's just so stale, and he has the capability to better himself, but he just chooses not to. I'm sure creative and Vince McMahon are just as guilty as he is when it comes to what he says and does.

The main reason that I believe Trish is different from John Cena, is that Trish was on top of the Women's Division for a little over 4 years. During that time, we also had Lita, Jazz, Gail Kim (in her first run), Molly Holly, even Mickie James as big stars in the Women's Division. John Cena has been on top for 8 years now. Even when he's not the champ, he still gets the main event slot. Don't believe me? Look up how many PPVs Cena main evented in 2012 and how many CM Punk main evented as the WWE Champion. Another major issue with Cena on top, is that the main event roster is so thin. As I mentioned earlier, there were plenty of other divas that were popular during Trish's run with WWE. How many major stars are there in WWE other than Cena?

Cena started to become stale for me in 2008 (about 3 years into his main event run.) I'm sure there were a lot of people beginning to be bored with Trish around 2005 or 2006. Then she retired. Cena's still going with no end in sight.
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AJ Actally Deserves This Push she is the Best Woman in WWE And knocks it out of the park every week She this ERA Mickie James and she plays the part great.

Oh okay.. You now officially have the Kelly Kelly fan treatment-Everything you said is not taken seriously at all.
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Trish came first, show her some respect. John Cena is the male Trish Stratus.
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It speaks volumes if even the amazing Eddie Guerrero couldn't pull a decent match out of you. Chyna sucked. Face it. She was awful in the ring. Big. That's the only reason she got pushed.

Layla does suck, little girl. Awful. Anyone, and I mean anyone can play the 'I'm better and prettier/handsomer than you' character. Awful. Just plain awful.

Lita got over thanks to the Team Extreme. She was a cool rocker chick who hung out with the coolest tag team in the business. It wasn't talent or mic skills that got her over, it was association. And none of the women you mentioned ever got over to the degree Lita did. Mickie and Lita were pushed, but they still couldn't eclipse Trish.

Like it or not, she's going into the Hall of Fame, and anyone with half a brain would understand she deserves it.
Please Lita got over cause she was badass as well..

Do you not remember her getting powerbomb outside the ring by EDDIE?
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Would not consider Gail Kim better than Trish or Lita? Maybe in the ring yes, and she's getting better at promos but Gail couldn't get over until her feud with Kong.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:27 PM   #88 (permalink)
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I was more of a Molly and Lita type of guy. Molly is the most underrated diva ever.
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I was more of a Molly and Lita type of guy. Molly is the most underrated diva ever.
Agreed on that.

And Lita was only over because of the Hardys? The Hardys were at their most popular when they were Team Xtreme, which was Lita, Matt and Jeff. And she and Jeff always got the biggest reactions out of the trio when they were together.

I like how everyone forgets the brutal bumps she took or how incredible her athleticism was and still is at the time. When was the last time you saw a diva do a diving hurricanrana to the outside of ring, take a bump off the top of a ladder or the top of a cage?

She got cheered because just like the Hardys, you didn't know what the fuck she was gonna do when she came out, and continued to get cheered after she went solo because she connected with audience in a way that a lot of divas didn't.

And in fact, her reactions were better than Trish the majority of their run together, even in 2003.

And I never really recall Trish getting booed on a regular basis the way Cena was, and she was face and heel a few times in her run, which Cena wasn't. I do think that her title runs were silly, winning it 4x in about a year, to Lita's 1 and Molly and Victoria's 1...when for most of that time she sucked.

But the crowd didn't care about that back then.

And no one brings it up now, especially her leaving with the title for months when she was injured.

I do think she was protected during her run, but the difference is most of the crowd/audience didn't care. She was over enough/loved enough for people to not care about her being protected.
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Trish bashing? What the fuck?
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