Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability - Page 2 - Wrestling Forum : WWE, TNA, Debate League, Wrestling Videos, Women of Wrestling Forums
Reply

Old 02-14-2013, 09:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 350
Carr1 101 - 250Carr1 101 - 250
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

Ken Doane/Kenny Dykstra and Harry Smith spring to mind. Particularly annoyed about the latter, with a mouthpiece manager he had everything going for him, and they wasted him and broke up the new hart foundation for no reason!

RVD as well, man the guy was crazy over, especially in the invasion storyline... why it took him til 2006 to win the belt I will never know, and he lost it because of Pot? I mean really?

Booker T in WWE as well, there was such a void there after Rock and Stone Cold left, again he was crazy over, they had the chance to put the belt on him at wrestlemania x9 and run with him, but yet again they blew it by having triple h hold the belt for forever, when he just didn't need it to get over...
Carr1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 02-14-2013, 09:14 PM   #12 (permalink)
Humbled
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,830
THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME 501 - 1000THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME 501 - 1000THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME 501 - 1000THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME 501 - 1000THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME 501 - 1000THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME 501 - 1000THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME 501 - 1000
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

I always saw potential in Carlito, He was over with the crowd in most his matches and the athleticism was there.

Last edited by THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME : 02-14-2013 at 09:17 PM.
THE BWO HAVE POSSESSION OF ME is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 09:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
Little Poppa Pump
 
Jeff Hardy Hater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Aces and Eights Clubhouse
Posts: 2,051
Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

Quote:
Originally Posted by Combat Analyst View Post
If he A. Developed mic skills B. Fleshed out his gimmick & C. Became less of a spot monkey



Guy just couldn't get that over enough to make it past the mid-card.


Again, is your gimmick to just be a horrid poster?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
William Regal, but then again, once you catch on to WWE's pattern, it's not surprising.

Kennedy but he would've made it big time if he wasn't stupid/injury prone. They gave it their all, I won't fault them on him.

MVP.
Yeah, they are sometimes angry when guys fail wellness policies. Can't blame them either after the Benoit tragedy, huh?
__________________
th sad truith that al of u cant ceem to grrasp is dat wrestlig is getig les poplar each day and no bodde caires abot it

vinse is senile at this poiint and th growth of tna has pleateuaed nd roh has nevr bin mor than his a crapy cult

Last edited by Jeff Hardy Hater : 02-14-2013 at 09:26 PM.
Jeff Hardy Hater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 09:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
 
xhbkx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Canada
Posts: 805
xhbkx 251 - 500xhbkx 251 - 500xhbkx 251 - 500xhbkx 251 - 500
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

Kaval. Unlike guys like MVP, Carlito, Shelton Benjamin, John Morrison, ect. They didn't even give him a chance. He basically won NXT then jobbed for 6 months then got fired.
xhbkx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 09:31 PM   #15 (permalink)
Challenging SCOTT STEINER's authority
 
Combat Analyst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,980
Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Hardy Hater View Post


Again, is your gimmick to just be a horrid poster?



Yeah, they are sometimes angry when guys fail wellness policies. Can't blame them either after the Benoit tragedy, huh?
Shelton Benjamin was a great in ring worker, but nothing in him screamed main-event. He had no persona, No character. Guy was an athlete. Only so far you can go on that.
__________________
http://24.media.tumblr.com/c07d02b42a25747222354c0ff8a16a46/tumblr_mn2hipLFC11rgam01o1_r1_500.png


Black Is Beautiful


Spoiler for DrIllmatic:
Combat Analyst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 09:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
Moron
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Manila
Posts: 756
Boygirl is being a bitchBoygirl is being a bitch
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

Mason Ryan. One of the best debuts in recent years.


Last edited by Clique : 02-14-2013 at 09:45 PM. Reason: fixed video
Boygirl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 09:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
Little Poppa Pump
 
Jeff Hardy Hater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Aces and Eights Clubhouse
Posts: 2,051
Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000Jeff Hardy Hater 1501 - 2000
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

Quote:
Originally Posted by Combat Analyst View Post
Shelton Benjamin was a great in ring worker, but nothing in him screamed main-event. He had no persona, No character. Guy was an athlete. Only so far you can go on that.
It's all on creative to give him a character and persona. He had a good look, he was over, he was great in the ring, and he was charismatic. They could easily have given him a character and he would have done well. Austin was The Ringmaster and he was Stone Cold, if that doesn't show you that creative means everything, I don't know what does.
__________________
th sad truith that al of u cant ceem to grrasp is dat wrestlig is getig les poplar each day and no bodde caires abot it

vinse is senile at this poiint and th growth of tna has pleateuaed nd roh has nevr bin mor than his a crapy cult
Jeff Hardy Hater is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 09:44 PM   #18 (permalink)
HAUNTING YOU
 
Clique's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Chicago
Posts: 18,245
Clique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on repClique whored out on rep
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

I'm not sure if the OP is asking about guys who didn't make it to the main event or guys who never got a chance to shine at all. If he's talking about the latter then I disagree with the Benjamin, Carlito, MVP and Morrison references. All of those guys had respectable and successful careers below the main event level. Not every one was built or chosen to be a headliner just because they were talented in the ring, on the microphone or had a memorable character. There are legends in this business who never held a World Title and based on the careers they had whether in quality matches, engaging promos, and memorable moments I would say they "made it."

A guy like Paul Burchill is a good example because the guy was extremely talented in the ring and he was trying his best to make something out of that pirate gimmick they gave him a few years back. Of course he even had a little stint as the generic, smug English heel as well. I agree they could have put more effort creatively in how they booked him because I'm sure with better writing he probably could have 'grabbed the brass ring' so to speak.

Wrestlers like Taz(z) and Raven were not booked properly at all either. The aura for those two characters had when Paul Heyman booked them in ECW was dead real quick in the Federation.
__________________
Clique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 09:51 PM   #19 (permalink)
Challenging SCOTT STEINER's authority
 
Combat Analyst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,980
Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000Combat Analyst 501 - 1000
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff Hardy Hater View Post
It's all on creative to give him a character and persona. He had a good look, he was over, he was great in the ring, and he was charismatic. They could easily have given him a character and he would have done well. Austin was The Ringmaster and he was Stone Cold, if that doesn't show you that creative means everything, I don't know what does.
Again, That's an if. The only time I've seen some personality or character from him was this:
__________________
http://24.media.tumblr.com/c07d02b42a25747222354c0ff8a16a46/tumblr_mn2hipLFC11rgam01o1_r1_500.png


Black Is Beautiful


Spoiler for DrIllmatic:
Combat Analyst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2013, 10:12 PM   #20 (permalink)
Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
 
Gareth Mallroy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On the grassy knoll
Posts: 675
Gareth Mallroy 101 - 250Gareth Mallroy 101 - 250
Default Re: Wrestler who you were shocked didn't make based on ability

MVP, Kennedy, Christian if we're talking guys who deserved more.

Rick Rude had the ability to be WWE champion and while he had a good run and career on the whole I guess you could say he deserved more and I'm shocked that he didn't.

Barry Windham. They messed him up bad. For such a talented guy, eminent in wrestling history, WWE really screwed him over.
__________________
Gareth Mallroy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios