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post #41 of 53 (permalink) Old 02-10-2013, 05:28 PM
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Re: Is the IWC wrong?

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IWC - nerds ,dorks,geeks.
And since you are on here posting, you are a part of your fictional IWC, therefore you just stated you are a) a nerd, b) a dork and c) a geek.

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Eventually, Cena's replacement will come and the IWC will come to hate him just as much.
Of course. And why wouldn't we? If Cena's replacement follows the same lame superhero formula that was outdated even 15 years ago, this next face of the company will quickly become just as annoying as Supercena.

Once considered a demotion, “getting sent down to NXT” is now considered the highest honor that can be bestowed upon a WWE performer.
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Re: Is the IWC wrong?

Being entertained is what interests me... what doesnt interest me is how much money WWE make. If they got that first bit right the second part would come naturally anyway.

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(1) Road Dogg (2) Kurrgan (3) The Godfather (4) Goldust (5) Kane (6) Val Venis (7) Prince Albert (8) Billy Gunn (9) Grandmaster Sexy (10) Steve Blackman (11) Al Snow (12) Raven (13) Perry Saturn (14) The Honky Tonk Man (15) Tazz (16) Crash Holly (17) Albert (18) Scotty 2 Hotty (19) The Rock (20) Big Show (21) Rosie (22) A-Train (23) Rob Van Dam (24) Mark Jindrak (25) Bobby Lashley (26) Tommy Dreamer (27) Sabu (28) King Booker (29) Rowdy Roddy Piper (30) Jimmy Snuka (31) John Morrison (32) Dolph Ziggler (33) Santino Marella (34) Finlay (35) Matt Hardy (36) Ezekiel Jackson (37) The Great Khali (38) Daniel Bryan (39) CM Punk

WHO'S NEXT?
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Re: Is the IWC wrong?

A lot of the IWC has no clue what they want and they fantasy-book their way through shows. They don't understand what "top face" means. They think WWE shouldn't do stuff they makes them the most money. They think there's a line backstage and "everyone deserves a chance." They think here's a pecking order. They think just because you can do a lot of spots and moves means your a good wrestler. They think Hulk Hogan's a bad wrestler because he "only did three moves." They hate the way John Cena is booked but both Hogan and Austin were booked the same way. They think wrestling is sport. They can't move on from the Attitude Era. They hate EVERYTHING today with a passion and wish things were like back in 2006 when WWE was universally hated around that time. They think they can book and run the company better than Vince fuckin' McMahon. They think Cena is a bad wrestler after countless good matches.

The worse part, they hate anybody who's pushed. CM Punk was the guy who mostly everybody agreed was getting misused and buried by the WWE. Once he's pushed he's "too small," he "can't draw," he's "2012's Kevin Nash," it's "not realistic." The same thing will happen to Ziggler, Sandow, it happened a bit when Daniel Bryan was World Champion. It happened with Sheamus and Miz, it's currently happening with Ryback, and holy hell did it happen with Cena. If Tyson Kidd was pushed, they would hate him too.

Mind you, I said "a lot" so don't give me the bullshit "but your part of the IWC." I don't mean the entire IWC, just the majority.



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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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A lot of the IWC has no clue what they want and they fantasy-book their way through shows. They don't understand what "top face" means. They think WWE shouldn't do stuff they makes them the most money. They think there's a line backstage and "everyone deserves a chance." They think here's a pecking order. They think just because you can do a lot of spots and moves means your a good wrestler. They think Hulk Hogan's a bad wrestler because he "only did three moves." They hate the way John Cena is booked but both Hogan and Austin were booked the same way. They think wrestling is sport. They can't move on from the Attitude Era. They hate EVERYTHING today with a passion and wish things were like back in 2006 when WWE was universally hated around that time. They think they can book and run the company better than Vince fuckin' McMahon. They think Cena is a bad wrestler after countless good matches.

The worse part, they hate anybody who's pushed. CM Punk was the guy who mostly everybody agreed was getting misused and buried by the WWE. Once he's pushed he's "too small," he "can't draw," he's "2012's Kevin Nash," it's "not realistic." The same thing will happen to Ziggler, Sandow, it happened a bit when Daniel Bryan was World Champion. It happened with Sheamus and Miz, it's currently happening with Ryback, and holy hell did it happen with Cena. If Tyson Kidd was pushed, they would hate him too.

Mind you, I said "a lot" so don't give me the bullshit "but your part of the IWC." I don't mean the entire IWC, just the majority.
Yeh, isnt it kinda funny.

And in some posts about the attitude era the thing some seems to miss the most is the blood...beause the amount of blood makes a show better...
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Re: Is the IWC wrong?

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Mind you, I said "a lot" so don't give me the bullshit "but your part of the IWC." I don't mean the entire IWC, just the majority.
So you are saying you surveyed opinions of hundreds of thousands of people.
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Re: Is the IWC wrong?

Its not one big hyperbole. Everyone has a different opinion.

Would I enjoy WWE a hell of a lot more if guys like Daniel Bryan were the top stars? Yeah. But I also like guys like Ryback that most internet fans would probably be against pushing to the main event. It works both ways but for the most part, I think I'd enjoy WWE a lot more if it was less bullshit and more good wrestling and wrestlers.
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post #48 of 53 (permalink) Old 02-11-2013, 08:49 AM
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Re: Is the IWC wrong?

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Eventually, Cena's replacement will come and the IWC will come to hate him just as much.
well it is WWE we're talking about here

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Yeh, isnt it kinda funny.

And in some posts about the attitude era the thing some seems to miss the most is the blood...beause the amount of blood makes a show better...
no i think its the coverup of blood as if it was always the way it has been, that is just insulting and well blood does add a touch of realism though it isn't needed
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post #49 of 53 (permalink) Old 02-11-2013, 09:57 AM
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Re: Is the IWC wrong?

The fact is....as much as we can all cry and bitch about WWE not pushing younger guys...they simply are not good enough to carry the company on the big stage.

I mean really who would get hyped up for a Wresltemania such as:

Ziggler vs Cesaro
Miz vs Kofi
Dean Ambrose vs Big E.
PTP vs Usos
Daniel Bryan vs Roman Reigns

It just would not sell. There is no argument.

The issue with building the stars to the point where this would actually be an amazing card lies in the restrictions of PG.
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post #50 of 53 (permalink) Old 02-11-2013, 01:30 PM
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Re: Is the IWC wrong?

I have no idea where this "good for business" rhetoric is coming from. Forget Wrestlemania and the awesome buyrate it popped for one second, tell me how exactly:

-Their stock prices falling off a cliff
-Dwindling ratings and PPV buys
-UFC displacing WWE as the premier "combat league" in terms of pop cultural acknowledgement (don't tell me they appeal to different audiences, they're both trying to attract the same mainstream audiences and superficially similar enough for an casual mind to make the comparison)
-A dead midcard and an utter lack of interesting characters
-A complete lack of potential big time matchups that doesn't involve a part timer
-A complete faliure of a movie studio...

...is good for business? Really aside from one time pops in Wrestlemania buyrates, the only real good WWE has done for business was in going PG in order to get good long deals with sponsers like Mattel and even that was only a partial success since the company is still just as irrelevant in the mainstream as ever while also managing to piss off its base.

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