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Old 02-07-2013, 10:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I remember reading about Ric Flair in the late 80's/early 90's. By than I had just discovered who he was, despite him being a top star in the Southern territories for years, decades even. But I was always a true WWF guy, I just had such a connection at a young age to some of those over the top characters. Bush Whackers, Jim Duggan, Ted Dibiase (his promo's and vignettes were the best!), Berserker, Kamala, Hart Foundation, Rockers, Jake Roberts, Brutus the Barber Beefcake, early scary Taker with Paul Bearer, the Legion of Doom, Roddy Piper, the Model Rick Martel, Texas Tornado, El Matador Tito Santana, Hercules, Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Iron Sheik, Nikolai Volkoff, Srgnt. Slaughter, Miss Elizabeth being as the first lady of wrestling, Vince on commentary, Heenan and Monsoon, Mr. Perfect, Sean Mooney, Mean Gene, the list goes on and on. Years later, I still remember those names and a vivid memory pops up every time I think of them. I had no idea who Flair was until he came to the WWF. I heard about how he wasn't the same in the Federation, he was watered down, not over with the crowd, and it was true, the WWF fans never truly embraced him during his short early 90's run with the company. At least the majority didn't. When he left, he didn't burn bridges, and now is widely considered a WWF legend. They've made stars for years and continue doing so, the WWE machine is sheer brilliance and its dominance on the industry and world as a whole is not to be overlooked.

The 80's and early 90's for me was the best period because lets be honest, at the time, a lot of folks still questioned whether or not it was real! You could suspend disbelief for a moment and get caught up in the wacky world of the WWF, even through the duds and missteps, you always knew that in the end your favorite hero would prevail. That's the thing, the difference than and now is that the hero's they created were much more revered to the talent of today. People point to the Attitude Era as the defining and shining moment of wrestling, but I happen to think that along with the great that came from it is a bit of responsibility for exposing the business and setting the sensationalism bar way too high to ever re-create. The WWF buried the business the moment it screwed Bret Hart, and some would argue even before that with some of the "real life" promo's that were being shot in 97. In terms of the late 90's, 97 still is my favorite year. Only because I was a Hart Foundation mark and enjoyed their feuds with the likes of the Nation of Domination and DX. I always found it interesting that 3 heel factions were feuding at the time. You'll never see that duplicated again. That was a year in WWF history that set the stone for the AE.

I switched ever so rarely to WCW to see what was going on, but deep down, I was always a WWF guy first and foremost. Hadn't much cared for Nitro except for a few spurts after the nWo was created. Otherwise, even during the down mid 90's, I still watched some boring ass Raw's every Monday night. There were times where you wouldn't necessarily see it on TV, but you could sense the arena's were half empty. The noise level was just so low that no dark lighting could hide it. But I still watched, because seeing Doink the Clown, Lex Luger, Razor Ramon, Diesel, Shawn, Bret, Owen, Yokozuna, Taker, etc., was still great TV for me. I was still fairly young at the time. By the time my teens came around, I grew with the product, which is why at 15-18 years of age, the WWF AE was more suited for a kid my age. There wasn't the same advent of the internet back then (can't count AOL 3.0 chat rooms and punting people using progz), so it wasn't as prevalent to watch sex, violence and vulgarity online anytime I want to. You had Springer and a few other talk shows like Jenny Jones and Maury, but otherwise, the WWF really changed with the times when they went balls to the wall in the late 90's.

Now looking back, it's all just classic wrestling that at one point, had a place in history. Despite the fact that people call these the "down years", in so many words, there's still some special matches that have taken place and will continue to take place so long as the WWE realizes the importance of match quality. Despite the flack that the WWE gets for their "lack" of wrestling, the PPV's are still unmatched in terms of what the superstars bring to the table. You can rest assured knowing that Jericho, Punk, Bryan, or even Cena, will bring it in a big time match. They know the history, they know what they're up against, and trust me, these guys hear the comparisons and obviously want to create their own history so one day people will speak of them as we sit here and speak of the stars that we enjoyed in the 80's and 90's. The product may not be as risky as it was 15 years ago, but remember, the same things that shocked people than, don't necessarily shock people now. The WWE went the "shocking" route in 2006 and it didn't do much for them. I enjoy the product regardless and will continue to support them if only because they've brought me so much entertainment throughout my life that I can't help but continue to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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I grew up watching WWF in the early 80's and though I got out of it for a while when I became a teen, I came back again to watch it in the late 90's and never stopped. There is kind of a lull now, but things will get better. Hopefully TNA can keep improving, and with competition comes a better product. One way or another, I will continue to watch.

I am 41 yrs old, and my 12 yr old son is really getting into it. He has so many wrestling figures, and he even writes his own storylines for them for when he plays with them! At a time in his life when he is becoming a teenager, instead of drifting away from his old man, we are finding something in common that we can enjoy together. When we watch the shows, we do it as a family, and even my wife watches. Her dad always watched, and my brother-in-law does as well. WWE helps keep family gatherings from getting too boring for us. Hell, her family is all hillbilly white trash. If we didn't talk wrestling, we would spend the time in her parents home watching the Game Show Network. And I ain't lying about that. Thank God for WWE...
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Old 02-12-2013, 12:40 PM   #53 (permalink)
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So, what did all the over 30s think of Raw last night?

For me, I enjoyed the Heyman / Punk promo in the beginning - Heyman just keeps on bringing it. (loved the Heyman, Vicks bit too)

Loved the Bryan / Jericho match - feud please!

Skipped past Big Shows no talkie bit

Skipped past Miz / Cody match until Cesaro played human pinball with Miz which was awesome.

Had a grim fascination with Brodus / Tensai and Fandango promos - i actually like the team from planet Japanese Funk... For some reason...

Skipped Ziggles / Kane as I Am just not interested in either at the moment

Skipped ADRs bit

Loved the Swag/Ryder match - and at the end there wondered -->> are the ACTUALLY going for a white supremacist gimmick here? Bold! Even bolder for Teddy and Bookah not to bat an eyelid at thta promo and just mentioned how much Jack impressed them.

Meh'd at the Super Friends beating 3MB - but enjoyed 3MBs antics

Loved Shield promo - no way they getting buried come Sunday

Meh'd Rock / Cena end - but I kind of liked the story I suppose.

What did you guys think?

Overall, I was entertained. 7/10


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I watched Hulkamania as a kid and WWE Attitude Era and Monday Night Wars in my teens
the 3 most successful "eras" in wrestling history

So I respect CHARACTERS and STORYLINES in wrestling
I also respect BIG MEN because SIZE MATTERS, such greats as Andre the Giant built this great sport

Unfortunately many new fans tend to favor so called "in ring" work over personality, and so we have garbage like Benoit and Daniel Bryan pushed to World title status
something which did not happen in the past where you actually had to get over before you won the title (in most cases)

As an old time wrestling fan I hate the new focus on vanilla midgets the young smarks seem to love
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I watched Hulkamania as a kid and WWE Attitude Era and Monday Night Wars in my teens
the 3 most successful "eras" in wrestling history

So I respect CHARACTERS and STORYLINES in wrestling
I also respect BIG MEN because SIZE MATTERS, such greats as Andre the Giant built this great sport

Unfortunately many new fans tend to favor so called "in ring" work over personality, and so we have garbage like Benoit and Daniel Bryan pushed to World title status
something which did not happen in the past where you actually had to get over before you won the title (in most cases)

As an old time wrestling fan I hate the new focus on vanilla midgets the young smarks seem to love
I don't know man - wouldn't Flair and Steamboat be 'Vanilla midget' size in current WWE?

Also, who can speak ill of Jericho? And he and Bryan is same size (almost)

PS) what did you think of Monday's Raw?


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Hoping to chat to some like-minded over 30 year old fans of WWE in here.

Are there even any out there?

Well, these days I take the WWE for what it is - kid's entertainment that I enjoy. I enjoy the new TMNT cartoon too - and that is geared towards kids - so, it's all cool.

I think the difference between now and 5 years ago is that when a show does not go exactly as I want, or a star is not booked correctly, I don't feel shafted in my personal capacity any more - I just take it for what it is -->> a wrestling based entertainment show, not the end of the world...

I do find myself enjoying the underdogs though - and the pushed faces and heels for the most part hold no interest for me. Guys like Bryan, Ryder, Sandow, Ambrose, Cesaro keep me coming back for more - while the Cena's Sheamus' and Punks are only an afterthought unless they really perform - like Punk has the last 3 weeks or so.

Do the rest of the over 30s feel the same way? A sort of nonchalant interest in the show, while rooting for your favs - and just enjoying it for what it is?

Or are you still passionately supporting and have knee-jerk reactions to booking, burials, backstage segments and so on? (nothing wrong with it)

I hope we can come here and chat each week about the Raw past

PS> I enjoyed Raw last night - skipped past Wade/Orton - Meh'd the Shield / 3 Heroes fight - loved the Ryback / Cesaro match (although, Ryback really looked tired afterwards - gotta look at that cardio) and was mildly interested in Swagger and somewhat in Bryan's new antics (embrace the 'Yes' Bryan!)

PPS> I am sure under 30's can comment - but I hope we can at the very least keep this civilised...
I feel similar, as I've gotten patient at seeing this generation moulded in front of my eyes as the last one did too.

I grew up with Hogan, Piper, Ultimate Warrior, Macho Man etc as I'm sure you probably did unless you are older.

Today I think Punk is great, Daniel Bryan is kind of an aquired taste, Ziggler is coming on and some more up and comings, Ambrose, Rollins ect are now on the scene from FCW, NXT.

I am a Big fan of Mcintyre, as I'm from Scotland, and never got to see Piper win the WWE title( yes I know he's Canadian..lol...I was young!), so I'm closely following Mcintyre after his Chosen One apperance in 2009, and what a rollercoaster ride it has been. Even though that was a tall order and was a big task for a nobody I thought he done rather well, now he's in 3MB....Oh man help me lord... so I think the journey I've watched from this young lad and the recently passing of his mother to cancer, I'm rooting for him more than ever to pick up the WHC, even if it is for a Swagger length of time...lol. Just to see it happen would be fantastic, but wether or not he gets a decent gimmick or gets more over is another thing as some people just plainly can't stand him.

The product is good, can be better, but it's always for the kids mainly(ahem...attitude era...lol) but I think the future looks bright just now, and would love to see Mcintyre get that gold, but for now it's Punk to the rescue!
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I feel similar, as I've gotten patient at seeing this generation moulded in front of my eyes as the last one did too.

I grew up with Hogan, Piper, Ultimate Warrior, Macho Man etc as I'm sure you probably did unless you are older.

Today I think Punk is great, Daniel Bryan is kind of an aquired taste, Ziggler is coming on and some more up and comings, Ambrose, Rollins ect are now on the scene from FCW, NXT.

I am a Big fan of Mcintyre, as I'm from Scotland, and never got to see Piper win the WWE title( yes I know he's Canadian..lol...I was young!), so I'm closely following Mcintyre after his Chosen One apperance in 2009, and what a rollercoaster ride it has been. Even though that was a tall order and was a big task for a nobody I thought he done rather well, now he's in 3MB....Oh man help me lord... so I think the journey I've watched from this young lad and the recently passing of his mother to cancer, I'm rooting for him more than ever to pick up the WHC, even if it is for a Swagger length of time...lol. Just to see it happen would be fantastic, but wether or not he gets a decent gimmick or gets more over is another thing as some people just plainly can't stand him.

The product is good, can be better, but it's always for the kids mainly(ahem...attitude era...lol) but I think the future looks bright just now, and would love to see Mcintyre get that gold, but for now it's Punk to the rescue!

Man, I love Scotland - Edinburgh is one of my Fav cities in the world. I think Mcintyre will still break out at some point - being in 3MB got him to loosen up a it, which is a good thing.

Did you see he was the only one that really got any offence in on the Super Friends last night?
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Man, I love Scotland - Edinburgh is one of my Fav cities in the world. I think Mcintyre will still break out at some point - being in 3MB got him to loosen up a it, which is a good thing.

Did you see he was the only one that really got any offence in on the Super Friends last night?
Yes Edinburgh is a beautiful city, shame about the recent tram works though.

Yes, he's loosend up greatly being part of 3MB, and got some offence on Sheamus....that could be a great feud! He has time on his side and am sure the WWE will have future plans for him.

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