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Old 01-31-2013, 02:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Professional wrestling is bigger in Japan than anywhere else in the world so I don't understand why no Asians have ever got a major push. Here's a list of guys who could have brought in a ton of money from the Japanese market if they even had an upper midcard push.

Taka(Even Foley said if WWE was based off skill he'd be a star)
Funaki(Was pretty good and just a real likeable guy)
Tajari
Kenzo Suzuki(Had a ton of hype, got a small push, then released)
Dr. Death(I understand Brawl for all but he had so much hype)
Yoshi Tatsu(Seemed to be the next Tanahashi before he left NJPW)
Tensai(Like Dr. Death was a white guy who became a legend there)

ULTIMO DRAGON
The guy isn't just a legend in Japan but a legend everywhere and is the most famous Lucha guy ever with the exception of Rey and Jushin. Out of all the talent WWE has ever wasted, I feel he was the biggest. Not only did he get cut but he got cut when their Cruiserweight devision was at it's highest point.

I'm so confused as to why WWE doesn't go after the Japanese market when it's huge. The way they act makes it seem like they just don't like Asians lol. They wouldn't let Tatsu carry out a Japanese flag in the WM pre show the year of the earth quake there. Funaki got cut after 10 long years with them. Albert was brought back and looked good but became a jobber over night.

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Its a different style of wrestling over there, much more about skill than promos. That is not the American market, unfortunately, as skill does not matter, only emotional investment.

And children can easily get emotionally invested.
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Its a different style of wrestling over there, much more about skill than promos. That is not the American market, unfortunately, as skill does not matter, only emotional investment.

And children can easily get emotionally invested.
Children can easily grow up and ask for something else and children aren't the same everywhere.

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Khali got a push.
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Its a different style of wrestling over there, much more about skill than promos. That is not the American market, unfortunately, as skill does not matter, only emotional investment.

And children can easily get emotionally invested.
The huge problem that WWE will obviously face, is that the WWE markets outside USA are different from the US market.

Most of the fans I have met aboard, especially in Europe, aren't kids, but grown up adults and teens. They cheer for the anti-american heels and are also fans who tend to prefer wrestling to "entertainemnt".

European and most kids outside USA are rougher and ,sorry, more mature than US kids. Their relations to sexuality (nudity for example) or violence aren't the same. They tend to become quicker bored by the current WWE, than the US kids.

WWE could loss the European market fairly quickly.

From what I can read in non-english forums and listen during shows outside USA. Those fans wouldn't mind to watch more japanese wrestlers and various styles of wrestling into WWE.

I can be wrong of course.


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Khali got a push.
I will shock you, but imagine WWE without Khali, it would be even more boring.

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Its a different style of wrestling over there, much more about skill than promos. That is not the American market, unfortunately, as skill does not matter, only emotional investment.

And children can easily get emotionally invested.
^ This is your biggest reason right here.
Add to that the average size of an Asian pro wrestler, and they are really hard pressed to succeed in the American market. If you had one who was an absolute beast, with good in ring skills, they could probably get over for a while.

But ultimately, in the American market, you have to have mic skills to truly make it big. You have to be able to tell your story in your own words. I really liked Yoshi Tatsu when he first showed up, and thought he could have been a 1-2-3 Kid type of underdog. But he never panned out. Not sure if it was his lack of English, bad booking or his piss poor cartoonish theme music. Most likely a combination of all three.

Tensai should not even be brought up in this conversation. My God, who in WWE was smoking so much crack that they thought the crowds weren't going to react to seeing Prince Albert again? I actually take him more seriously as a performer when he is wearing lingerie and dancing like a fool than trying to pass off some half assed pseudo Asian gimmick. That's like bringing back Brian James and trying to pass him off as one of the never seen before famous "Armstrong" brothers, when everyone already knows who he is. Pointless.
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Its a different style of wrestling over there, much more about skill than promos. That is not the American market, unfortunately, as skill does not matter, only emotional investment.

And children can easily get emotionally invested.
While that all makes sense, giving the Japanese audience one guy can't hurt WWE in any way.

I don't get it, Kenzo was pretty over as a heel considering how short his run was and then they threw it away by making him have a rap battle with Cena, then cut him.

Tatsu was over as a face when ECW ended and won the WM26 pre shw battle royal and then went to jobber status.

Kai En Tai were extremely popular and had a gimick that made everybody love them but were the ultimate jobbers their whole run. They could have at least got one title run.

Right now Tatsu would have no problem with a Kofi gimick and spot and Tensai could go back to his monster gimick.

I'm not saying WWE should go Japanese, I just think they should give them a guy to bring in their viewers.

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I will shock you, but imagine WWE without Khali, it would be even more boring.
No, no it wouldn't be.
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Children can easily grow up and ask for something else and children aren't the same everywhere.
Not as long as children are born, and become new fans. And yes, I believe most responders to my post can direct you to the comment that children are not subject to the same cultural pressures everywhere.
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Tensai should not even be brought up in this conversation. My God, who in WWE was smoking so much crack that they thought the crowds weren't going to react to seeing Prince Albert again? I actually take him more seriously as a performer when he is wearing lingerie and dancing like a fool than trying to pass off some half assed pseudo Asian gimmick. That's like bringing back Brian James and trying to pass him off as one of the never seen before famous "Armstrong" brothers, when everyone already knows who he is. Pointless.
Lets say they did put Tensai or Tatsu over...

First of all I'd be mad if any current Japanese superstar got put over instead of Tatsu, unless his name is Hiroshi Tanahashi. If Tensai did get put over though, would I want him to be a wannabe asian with the symbols painted on his face? Obviously not. I would like him to go back to Albert or A-Train but still represent Japan. That way he could open up the market without being considered offensive and what not.
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