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Old 01-29-2013, 07:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Ryder could have ME a RAW.

The point isn't if Ryder was ME worthy the point is this guy pushed himself. For that he should have gotten a run on Raw at the WWE Belt. The WWE almost let Santino win the WHC last year.

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Old 01-29-2013, 07:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Zack Ryder has been acting like a jerk lately with his tweets I wouldnt be surprised if he gets released after Wrestlemania
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Has everyone here been sat in a Vince Mcmahon creative meeting for the last 20 years? Being good enough for the main event in WWE doesn't mean that you have to look a certain way, behave a certain way or even wrestle a certain way. You need charisma...

Stone Cold was looked at as not being main event material because he didn't have the right look and he probably had the biggest impact a superstar ever had on the business (and I include Hogan in this)

I mean what about Mick Foley screamed main event material? Some fat guy wearing weird attire and reputation for hardcore matches and comedy, yet he drew serious $$$

Ryder may be moddled on a Jersey shore goof, he may look stupid but he had a style of charisma and an attraction that made fans CHOOSE to cheer him (note choose, he wasn't thrust on them like Ryback/Sheamus) and that is such a rare and precious commodity, and when creative shouldve been exposing his strengths? They buried him

Surely people on here who don't like Ryder can still appreciate the fact that fans liked him, I mean I can do the same about Ryback, can't stand the cheap Goldberg knock off character, but hes popular so I commend the WWE for pushing him...
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Zack Ryder has been acting like a jerk lately with his tweets I wouldnt be surprised if he gets released after Wrestlemania
So CM Punk does a legitimate shoot live on Raw about how he's been held down and he is a legend as a result, but god forbid Zack Ryder should air some pretty fair grievances on twitter? Double standards methinks...
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As silly as it was for Vince and the others to squash Zack Ryder, I can sort of understand where Vince would be frustrated with the guy. It's not that hard to manipulate the fans into cheering for you, and Vince has always enjoyed being able to control the product in the sense of who gets cheered, who flies under the radar, and who gets booed. It's his show so he gets to say what goes and what doesn't, Zack disregarded that and started his own show while under contract, and while the two shows were at the time not officially affiliated with each other, it was still WWE's Zack Ryder hosting the show.

Zack Ryder got himself over, but it's almost the same as if some jobber on Raw decided to disregard Vince and everything else, grab a mic and get himself noticed. It's not exactly the same thing since technical and legal points keep them separated, but it does come to the same thing, Vince's control has been disrupted and he doesn't like that.

Still fucking stupid though, Vince has proven he's allowed to let personal issues with people slide for the sake of making some money out of the situation, this should have been no different.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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As silly as it was for Vince and the others to squash Zack Ryder, I can sort of understand where Vince would be frustrated with the guy. It's not that hard to manipulate the fans into cheering for you, and Vince has always enjoyed being able to control the product in the sense of who gets cheered, who flies under the radar, and who gets booed. It's his show so he gets to say what goes and what doesn't, Zack disregarded that and started his own show while under contract, and while the two shows were at the time not officially affiliated with each other, it was still WWE's Zack Ryder hosting the show.

Zack Ryder got himself over, but it's almost the same as if some jobber on Raw decided to disregard Vince and everything else, grab a mic and get himself noticed. It's not exactly the same thing since technical and legal points keep them separated, but it does come to the same thing, Vince's control has been disrupted and he doesn't like that.

Still fucking stupid though, Vince has proven he's allowed to let personal issues with people slide for the sake of making some money out of the situation, this should have been no different.
You make some valid points, but answer me this. If it is so easy to get yourself over, why isn't everyone else doing it? I will still argue that Ryder is/was a rare commodity that has been ruined by bullshit politics
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i dont get this well his gimmick is terrible, yet i bet everyone loves the former dentist, or the guy simply called mean mark , or a hollywood blonde, or a guy from texas who dressed in bright colors and danced around for yrs from texas being all main eventers. or a movie star who was told just to smile all the time. hell look at mick foley. i dont get this he doesnt have the look what the hell is the look?
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You make some valid points, but answer me this. If it is so easy to get yourself over, why isn't everyone else doing it? I will still argue that Ryder is/was a rare commodity that has been ruined by bullshit politics
Well the reason nobody tries as hard as Ryder is pretty evident. If you use WWE air time to do anything outside of the script, you're going to have a bad time. Likewise, if you do anything else to otherwise influence how the show plays out, you're probably not going to have a good time of it either. Zack Ryder actually did manage to walk away with a bit more money due to him now getting a cut of his merchandise sales, but a lot of people who witnessed it all playing out were probably wondering if it was worth risking their jobs over for a small increase to their cheques.
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well, in Vince's (or whoever) defense, Ryder is awfully shitty
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well, in Vince's (or whoever) defense, Ryder is awfully shitty
Ryder might be awful shitty...

But he now makes VKM money.... Unlike Hawkins
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