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Old 01-29-2013, 11:14 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is the fans' stupidity the reason of WWE decadence ?

The thing is I believe fans more or less have stopped watching or just DVR to the stuff they like. I don't know anyone who likes the product 100 percent or ever has liked it 100 percent. I think it's a mistake to believe so.

The wwe needs to have writers like they had in 2000 up until Austin's return. From RR 2000 to SummerSlam 2000 the product had some of the best writing and also from summer 97-summer 98.

It's not coincident those two time frames were either very successful financially or were times when the company was RED HOT bringing back audiences to the product.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:14 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Spot on! That is the answer to all the people criticizing WWE creative staff. It's because the fans are stupid and WWE is doing a good job of satisfying the stupid fans.

This issue should also be considered when talking about a wrestler's drawing power. Remember it's the power to draw stupid fans, especially in the PG era since the main target audience is the stupid fans. So of course a guy like Cena is a bigger draw than a guy like Punk.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is the fans' stupidity the reason of WWE decadence ?

Since when did the WWE start catering to fans. Who says this is what fans want each week? Perhaps it's just the fact that many behind closed doors have no idea what the current product should look like these days.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:19 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is the fans' stupidity the reason of WWE decadence ?

I'm close to throwing in the towel lol... it seems like the main event matches are the only focus on the show, and they've been incredibly repetitive for a long long time. The big thing for me is it seems like besides Punk and Cena, the wreslters are only getting over with cream puff gimmicks, like Daniel Bryan having shade of Marella/Eugene in his character, Cody Rhodes with his moustace lol, Sheamus with his corny "bad boy" gimmick. A lot of it just has to do with the fact that they won't let anyone come close to John Cena's level, so the wrestlers have to do silly stuff like hug each other for crowd reactions, since they can't do it with any level of badassery.

Bully Ray said it a few weeks ago but he was right, they need more a more gritty and rough feel to the matches.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is the fans' stupidity the reason of WWE decadence ?

The wwe caters more times to what they feel the product should be. The only time I really believe the WWE really listened to its hardcore fans was during the time wcw was kicking its ass.

Fans were saying not to turn Austin into a vanilla babyface and the company listened for the most part although some fans were worried a little when he started pandering a bit telling the crowd to "Give me a hell yeah". For the most part Austin didn't become the opposite of the character fans were gravitating to. The same thing with The Rock when fans were starting to get behind him(he actually turned right back when it was getting over as people's champion turning into corporate champion).

It just got worse and worse since the wcw buy out with the company doing whatever the hell they want more than the actual fans who brought it back from the dead. They said screw all that and just went for the kids because the audiences who loved the guys like Austin and Rock didn't like the new stars or how the company was doing its storylines.

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Old 01-29-2013, 11:26 AM   #16 (permalink)
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I like the product. it's very entertaining, and it's great to see them finally put Cena back in the title picture. also don't have a problem with the humor, it's actually entertaining. you want wrestling, you can always go to an NCAA college wrestling tournament.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:29 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I know I don't speak for everyone, but I think Santino can be downright hysterical at times. His in-ring shtick has gotten stale, but he's usually pretty funny in backstage segments. All of the other things you mentioned though, I haven't found any of those funny. Natalya should be used as a centerpiece of the Divas division and it's a shame that she's been stuck doing anything but wrestling. Hornswoggle has been directionless since Finlay disappeared from in-ring competition - if anyone listens to Colt Cabana's Art of Wrestling podcast, his most recent one was with Hornswoggle and you can tell the guy loves the business. The writers don't know how to use lower card guys in the slightest and its really hurting the product... the mid card is getting better but the lower card is miserably desolate.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:39 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is the fans' stupidity the reason of WWE decadence ?

Hornswoggle loves the business ? Can't believe that, this guy buried a goddamn title and if my memory is good, his favorite Raw moment was with the muppets and his favorite WM match is Rock vs Cena
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I don't think the word decadence means what you think it means.
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Hornswoggle loves the business ? Can't believe that, this guy buried a goddamn title and if my memory is good, his favorite Raw moment was with the muppets and his favorite WM match is Rock vs Cena
He didn't bury anything on his own, he was put in that position.
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