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Old 01-28-2013, 12:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
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There needs to be an element of unpredictability in any sport, sports entertainment, films, tv.... everything we watch we are doing so for that unpredictability, Im not saying they should of had someone else overcome the odds and win the rumble last night, if they have a direction that they wish to go in to generate matches and revenue at Mania then that is what they are going to do, and all power to them for that.

However the part that really bugs me is the way the match outcomes are booked, for Rock whos not had more than a handful of matches in years to beat the current WWE champion is degrading of the current generation of wrestlers, but to have him take a triple powerbomb from the shield, get back up and beat Punk with an Elbow (he could of at least used the rock bottom) was in my opinion and i know other disagree, Disgraceful!

I did predictions with my friend last night for the rumble, each match, and final 4 of the rumble.... and I was 1 person off getting it all spot on, I had randy to outlast Ziggy, (and yes i figured Hell No would keep the titles, it just seemed too soon to break them up after Dr shelby and the graduation) But all in all, that sort of predictability is ridiculous.

The above is really just based on the RR, and maybe my opinions are more bias right now, because im sure we were all saying after MITB a couple years back "WWE is amazing" etc etc, so to answer the question...

I like to think at times, maybe its time to give this up, as its causing more frustration than its worth, but I know ill be back tonight watching raw, hoping for some storyline progression to give me something to cheer about, and however predictable it gets, it just makes it more shocking and a great night when something unpredictable and above the ordinary happens.

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Old 01-28-2013, 12:15 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I'm 23 and like some others have said I don't care much if the show is predictable. I also agree specifically with Itami that I don't mind it as long as it is a turn of events that make sense.

However I have been surprised in little ways. ADR getting the title and turning face? I didn't see that coming and embraced it. I love the new direction ADR is going in. I hated Heath Slater in every way at first, but his forming of 3MB with Mahal and McIntyr was great! I love the silly antics of all three of them. Jericho making a surprise return? Definitely didn't see that coming.

Sometimes it can be a mix for me. I try to just watch with suspension of disbelief and keep kayfabe alive, but there's another part of me that speaks up and says that what I'm watching is just stupid and I should feel stupid.

I will continue to watch Raw and Smackdown every week, though. I am a mindless drone.
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Interesting topic! A big reason why I don't watch now is because, yes, I do feel that I've outgrown the product. I liked the Attitude Era, not because of blood, boobs, and swearing, because of the storylines, the crazy characters, the championships, the Divas' status on tv, and because I like intergender (not mixed tag) matches, but that's all taken away now. As an adult, I don't like how they try to insist who I should and should not like. With their words, they lie by putting someone over as bigger than their actual potential and try to herd us by making popular wrestlers they don't want to be popular insignificant, only giving in when the fans insist to the point where they can no longer ignore it. I've said it a lot, but current day WWE is like a shiny toy that a child cannot resist, and I don't blame them for making that their target because it's economically smart and they've only come full circle. The Divas are like Barbies for a reason; you wouldn't see a Jazz in their current environment (Kong or "Kharma" was an awfully-executed exception). I think children are much smarter than people give them credit for, but truth be told, it's not as hard to write a product for them. And also I'm not a big fan of catch phrases (though, "Sorry about your damn luck" is pretty good ). Part of the reason why is that WWE tries so hard to get people over with it, because people do look forward to the crowd participation and it can make a wrestler at least seem popular. But I look at it as a t-shirt generator at this point; I can just see them rubbing their hands together whenever any little catchphrase, even if it's stupid or immature, gets popular.

But for people who get outright mad that we have the nerve to complain, well, I do it because I want WWE to operate at their full ability. An attractive product means nothing to me if I can't enjoy it, much like a guy who looks great, has a great job, nice house/car, but when he opens his mouth I can imagine a "Vacancy" sign where his brain should be. It's like they focused so much on the presentation that they forgot about the substance. And what turned me to the other promotion is because of the ability to still enjoy it as an adult. I've watched wrestling for 20 years, but I don't believe in staying with the man who brought me to the dance if he doesn't dance at all, so I have loyalty only to actual people in my life, and even they are not exempt from me moving on from them if they consistently disappoint me. Doesn't mean I don't care about them, but it does mean that I'm that tired of being disappointed. I still care about WWE (the wrestlers) or otherwise I wouldn't post here at all, but they broke a non-verbal contract with me when they promised me a great show and delivered a crappy one consistently. I won't give them my rating because to them ratings = good show when that's not the case. I've loved you for a long time, but let's not lie to each other, WWE.
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I'm 25, soon to be 26. I don't feel too old for the product. I think wrestling should be for everyone, not just the kids, and not just the adults. There are various characters who can appeal to every niche of the fanbase.
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Default Re: The hard question (20+ year old fans only please).

I started watching wrestling when I was about 2 and stopped in 2007. I picked it back up casually in 2011, but I don't consider myself a "fan" anymore. When I was a kid, I primarily watched WCW for the midcard. Chris Benoit has always been my favorite. My uncle had some bootleg tapes from NJPW that I saw when i was like 3 or 4 and at the time he was Wild Pegasus so that sold me. Anyway, I stopped in '07 cause he died and only picked it back up in 2011 with all the hype of the Rock returning. I think the product is very bland today and I only like a few wrestlers. Zack Ryder is okay, CM Punk is my current favorite, definitely like the Rock (though he's part time), and Dolph Ziggler is cool too. Other than that, I can't click with any of them. I personally preferred the Ruthless Aggression era more than the Attitude Era because it felt more like the WCW midcard I enjoyed as a kid. I like technical wrestling. WCW had the best from 95-99 and WWE had it going from 2002 - 2005ish. Now it feels like the show is just 3 hours of John Cena and his antics and it's uninteresting.

One thing I fail to realize is that if wrestlers like Stone Cold, The Rock, Hollywood Hogan, Sting, etc.. (all these edgy characters) were HUGE when I was a kid, why aren't edgy characters huge today? Are kids today that soft? Are they that dumb? Nobody tried anything we saw on Nitro at school back then, why is everything so politically correct today..
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I'm 22 and i feel too fucking old for pretty much everything.
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This exactly what i say to myself when i watch RAW (especially during Cena matches)
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HELL NO!I dont feel im too old to watch wrestling.wrestling is for everyone
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