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post #121 of 145 (permalink) Old 01-26-2013, 12:27 PM
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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

I'm guessing that the OP didnt see ROH when Daniel was the face of it and defending the title around the world in 5 star matches...
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post #122 of 145 (permalink) Old 01-26-2013, 12:33 PM
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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

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Agreed. It's one thing to say he's talented, entertaining, and one of the best performers in the company, but it's another thing entirely to say all of the ridiculous claims above. Yet, many of the Bryan marks here say these things, and it really doesn't make them seem too smart. But hey, a marks gonna mark.

I'm neutral on Daniel Bryan. There's no doubt he's a talented technician, but is he really this super ultra, total package performer that his marks claim he is? I have yet to see this. It's just the way his fans put him on such a pedestal as if he was the GOAT is just laughable, annoying, and delusional.
Considering you have only seen his WWE work you can't really say he's not the GOAT.. That's like someone saying Metallic isn't good yet they've never heard any of their 80s music.
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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

His current Team Hell No gimmick is running its course and is near its end, it has been entertaining but in my opinion is getting stale now. I think this staleness in his current character, combined with his current look (of a tramp) is causing more people to detract than normal. Daniel seems incapable of meshing his comedy with an underlying feeling of being a permanent threat, which is something Kurt was excellent at. How ever much of a goof he played, you always knew he could go in the ring. I don't feel that same threat from Bryan at present.

I'd like to seem him return to his singles career with a more serious persona, focusing around his abilities not unlike when Kurt was in his wrestling machine phase. His talent could be enough to solidify him as a main eventer in and of itself, like Benoit. Or maybe not.

His wrestling is definitely the best in the company right now. I don't think he has the look to be a main eventer, and never will, nor do I think he has the necessary charisma. I think he will do well as a top mid carder / infrequent main eventer.

Is he as good as HBK, Kurt etc? No. In tehcnical terms he probably rivals them, but he lacks the showmanship and charisma of the former to really be considered in their category. But purely as a wrestler, he certainly is not overrated.

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post #124 of 145 (permalink) Old 01-26-2013, 12:50 PM
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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

I'm sure we'll see the end of Team Hell No pretty soon. After that, as was mentioned above Bryan should get more serious. Someone made a great suggestion in another post that he should change his catchphrase from "No!" to "Tap!". He should go on a winning streak of making people tap out, which could lead to bigger feuds. I think that would help get him over as a legitimate threat.
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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

What I don't get is why people's tastes are so boring and predictable that they'd disregard arguably one of the best careers in the entire industry? This goes back to that "Daniel Day Lewis" comparison. If someone shows brilliance in front of a smaller audience, yet fails to live up to it on a larger stage due to restrictions, why blame the individual and not the machine that's holding him back? better yet, why pay more attention to the latter? quality doesn't seem to matter as much as familiarity.

If you truly knew what Bryan was capable of, there would be no doubt in your mind that his work and potential is right up there with the very best. And no, that's far from the definition of overrated. The reason being because it's well deserved.

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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

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zigglers best match? You obviously haven't seen ziggler/edge or ziggler/punk at back to back rumbles.
Bryan/Ziggler is comfortably better than both of those matches.
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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

Bryan/Ziggler better than Zigger/Edge & Ziggler/Punk? Nope, not in a million years. Both those matches were awesome. Bryan/Ziggler was a good one, too, but it's just not the same.



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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

He's one of the greatest "wrestlers" of all time(in ring ability only), but the company is all about "entertainment".
So you're not really going to see why he's one of the greatest if they will not give him time to show that.
Give him 20 minutes in a PPV with a decent opponent and for sure you will have a MOTN...


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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

There are other wrestlers who get equal or more love than Bryan on the internet, and since he is more talented than at least most of them, he therefore cannot be the most overrated. OP is confusing the word 'overrated' with 'wrestler people love that I don't like.'
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Re: Daniel Bryan: most overrated wrestler in the IWC

Ziggler is FAR more overrated than Bryan.

The only good qualities Ziggler has is that he is above average in the ring, and he can sell.
Other than that he sucks. He has no charisma, no presence, no character, and gets no reaction.

Bryan is a far better wrestler than Ziggler, and actually gets a reaction with his Yes/No stuff, so how can people say Bryan is more overrated.

Ziggler is the definition of overrated.
I will never understand why people like him.
Ziggler as a main eventer is laughable.
His ring work is not good enough to get him a world title reign when he is so seriously lacking in the personality department and all the other crucial areas.

He should be in a Kofi Kingston type roll at best.
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