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Re: Jake the Snake asking fans to donate for shoulder surgery

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Someone just donated 1k, holy shit.
Hope it's a multi-millionaire and not a lad who just happens to have a few grand saved.

I really appreciate this, how Jake is willing to ask for help. I don't suppose he could ever be too proud as he's been at his lowest and probably would have taken anything, but now he is willing to admit to help him carry on turning his life around he needs help.

Does he deserve the chance? Well, there are probably others who deserve it more but Jake is an example of one extreme to another. If Jake can succeed I would believe anyone can, and can hopefully see this legacy that DDP could build by helping these people out help our current generation of wrestlers continue after wrestling.

I will donate, I don't expect anything in return but it's great to see he's offering pictures/cards etc. I think there's a great way for them to make money and that's pay to subscribe to DDP's website, and have all sorts of videos on there from the yoga, to the funny ones, to even reviews that Jake used to do on his Myspace, to all sorts of content. I wouldn't mind dropping a few quid a month for that, knowing it's not just helping Jake but DDP go forward too.

I hope that in 10 years time we're looking at DDP Yoga as an enterprise, somewhere WWE sends it's wresters to rehabilitate and something everyone can do. It genuinely seems interesting and seems to have helped a lot of people.
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Re: Jake the Snake asking fans to donate for shoulder surgery

I'm very glad to hear that DDP has been able to help Jake. The amount of success he's had with the program is astounding.

The way that I look at this situation; It might be a permanent change, or it might not, but I'm happy to give Jake the benefit of the doubt. I know these stories and I sympathize with his struggles. I believe that he truly wants to change right now and that's all you can really ask of a person. Whether he slips up in the future is irrelevant to his journey right now, and he's on a good path. I'm more than willing to give a couple of quid to a guy that worked as hard (and was as good) as Jake 'The Snake' Roberts.
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Re: Jake the Snake asking fans to donate for shoulder surgery

i would be very wary myself of giving an ex addict my hard earned cash not to say it isnt going towards surgery but when ur flat broke and you get a huge sum of money GIVEN to you.. i could see him easily going fuck the surgery and going on a giant bender.. i hope im very wrong as he has obv came a long way with DDPs help

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i would be very wary myself of giving an ex addict my hard earned cash not to say it isnt going towards surgery but when ur flat broke and you get a huge sum of money GIVEN to you.. i could see him easily going fuck the surgery and going on a giant bender.. i hope im very wrong as he has obv came a long way with DDPs help
There's the kicker. If this was just some dude off the street I'd never see again then, as much as I would like to help them, I would have to decline. However all of this Jake and DDP stuff is very public so the chances of something like that, I hope, are limited.

Don't get me wrong, I would be entirely disappointed as a donator if Jake fell off the wagon but from the way he's speaking about it, the way he's working and looking, and especially because of the people that are around him I think this is legitimate. I think Dallas Page has his business head screwed on and knows what something like this could do to his DDP Yoga business (Jake falling off after being helped monetarily as well as physically and mentally,) and if he didn't believe it, he wouldn't endorse it. In doing so, and the fact he has helped many people and some of the people I look up to have in turn endorsed his product, I have almost complete faith.

If Jake has his surgery paid for by his fans and works hard to rehabilitate himself, then I think they all must know that he will never be broke again. This could be a great story and could set them both up for life, as we all know Jake Roberts has a lot to give back to the business that he has never been in a position to give.

Again, hopefully see this is 10 years as a great wrestling success story.
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Re: Jake the Snake asking fans to donate for shoulder surgery

I'd be more sympathetic if he hadn't killed his own snake due to criminal negligence.

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There's the kicker. If this was just some dude off the street I'd never see again then, as much as I would like to help them, I would have to decline. However all of this Jake and DDP stuff is very public so the chances of something like that, I hope, are limited.

Don't get me wrong, I would be entirely disappointed as a donator if Jake fell off the wagon but from the way he's speaking about it, the way he's working and looking, and especially because of the people that are around him I think this is legitimate. I think Dallas Page has his business head screwed on and knows what something like this could do to his DDP Yoga business (Jake falling off after being helped monetarily as well as physically and mentally,) and if he didn't believe it, he wouldn't endorse it. In doing so, and the fact he has helped many people and some of the people I look up to have in turn endorsed his product, I have almost complete faith.

If Jake has his surgery paid for by his fans and works hard to rehabilitate himself, then I think they all must know that he will never be broke again. This could be a great story and could set them both up for life, as we all know Jake Roberts has a lot to give back to the business that he has never been in a position to give.

Again, hopefully see this is 10 years as a great wrestling success story.
I hope so too and the work thats been done for the guy is evident but as we all know it can take weeks and years to get propely clean and only take one day to slip its a tough thing.. but i think if he is in pain he is more likely to slip back into it to numb the pain so getting the surgery is defo a good preventive step aswell as a good for his future career.

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Re: Jake the Snake asking fans to donate for shoulder surgery

Donation by Vince McMahon...of $0

I mean I know they have rehab programs but they should have some sort of surgery budget for their retired stars, the only time they have to have surgeries sometimes is after they leave the ring. It's not like WWE provides insurance, they're treated as independent ocntractors when they shouldn't be but that's opening up a whole new can of worms, with large tax implications.

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Donation by Vince McMahon...of $0

I mean I know they have rehab programs but they should have some sort of surgery budget for their retired stars, the only time they have to have surgeries sometimes is after they leave the ring. It's not like WWE provides insurance, they're treated as independent ocntractors when they shouldn't be but that's opening up a whole new can of worms, with large tax implications.
I don't think it's Vince's problem. Sad, but true. If this was the case then every single wrestler would expect it and it would be abused.

Wrestlers are paid handsomely whilst they're in WWE, or WWF as it were, and I feel that those in charge expect them to cover themselves with the money they earn which is fair and agreed upon before they sign the contract. It isn't like they only work for WWE in their careers and sadly in Jake/Hall and multiple others' case, it's their own well-being that has led to them needing help in this way.

I don't think the WWE is to blame and so they shouldn't shell out thousands of pounds to former wrestlers who either went on too long, or did excess stuff to their own bodies.. The fact that they pay for rehab for their former wrestlers is massively commendable, if they paid for surgery as well then they would be taking hit after hit.

It's sad, but I think the only time Vince should help wrestlers are when they work for him, which as you said opens up all sorts.
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Re: Jake the Snake asking fans to donate for shoulder surgery

And another $1,000 donation means he's over two thirds of the way there.


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