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post #61 of 200 (permalink) Old 01-24-2013, 05:51 PM
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Ryback? Overrated?

Yeah, that's bullshit. As much bullshit as TNA being a better show than RAW. Seriously, who voted on this crap?

Tyson Kidd? Most underrated? There's a reason why he's not on television and that's because he has as much personally as the chair I'm sitting on right now. And I'm guaranteeing you nobody who vote for him if he wasn't a Hart.
I've noticed Cena fans damn near everywhere think this same thing. They hate great workers like Kidd, love horrible workers like Ryback. Go figure.
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Most Underrated: Tyson Kidd (WWE)
Hm... not sure I agree with that. In ring-wise, sure but... eh.


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Worst TV Announcer: Michael Cole (WWE) - 4th consecutive year "winning" this category
Hell no, not as long as Jerry Lawler remains behind the desk.


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Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic: WWE broadcasting a dead Jerry Lawler being revived after a heart attack, and then having CM Punk and Paul Heyman mock the heart attack in front of Lawler (WWE)
While that was bad, even worse was selling t-shirts after the fact to cash in on what happened.

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Worst Feud: John Cena vs. Kane (WWE)
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Some of these results are just freakin' weird.

How on Earth can TNA be voted the 2nd Worst Promotion, but TNA Impact voted the Best Weekly Television show (by a pretty good margin over the WWE shows too)? I mean I understand there are other factors that go into deciding how good a promotion is, but if they have the best TV show, shouldn't that ease off almost winning worst promotion?

How in God's name is John Cena third most charismatic when half the fans hate his guts even though he's supposed to be the top babyface? And heck, if this week's Raw is any indicator, a lot of them don't even have the energy to react to him anymore.

How is Cena Vs. Kane the worst feud? I mean yeah it was bad, but seriously? The worst?!?! Claire Lynch and that whole fiasco was not as bad as Cena/Kane, really?! AJ/Vickie is probably the only one I would accept being worse than Claire Lynch since it ripped off elements from that.

And I don't understand this about the Observer awards. What is the difference between Wrestler of the Year (Flair/Thesz award) and Most Outstanding Wrestler? Isn't that the same thing?

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How on Earth can TNA be voted the 2nd Worst Promotion, but TNA Impact voted the Best Weekly Television show (by a pretty good margin over the WWE shows too)? I mean I understand there are other factors that go into deciding how good a promotion is, but if they have the best TV show, shouldn't that ease off almost winning worst promotion?
I am amazed so many people here can't grasp the fact WWE has 5 TV shows now. Those 5 shows spilt the vote.
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It would be a surprise if they voted for anyone else than Ryback as the most overrated wrestler. They are spot on with this one
The guy comes in as a jobber killer with a winning streak. Starts getting over with his chant. Is put into a main event storyline because of John Cena's injury. Has a match with the WWE Champion CM Punk at Hell in the Cell which bumps up the buyrate for the PPV from last year. Remains over, but never wins the WWE Championship. Loses a triple threat match by shenanigans which involve three top prospects from NXT. Loses a TLC tag match to the said group. Loses a TLC match for the WWE Championship because of that said group.

He's over as hell. Even though he does get "Goldberg" chants, he even get's big pops in smark cities like Philadelphia. I haven't heard him outright booed yet.

So tell me, how is he overrated?



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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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WO awards awful as usual

they have no credibility to the TRUE fans
True fans being those fans here who live off copy and paste versions of his newsletter via newzsotes?

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These awards are always littered with Japan and TNA. Not to say I disagree, but even if Punk or anyone else had five star matches all year long, it would still be Bryan who won that award, Meltzer will make sure of that.
This is an extremely ignorant claim if you look at what promotion the match of the year came from for the past 4-5 years.

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Wow, what prestigious awards! Everyone should be so honored.......oh wait. Why do people give a fuck what Meltzer marks think? They're all just marks for that overrated shit over in Japan.
I take it don't read many Wrestler autobiographies some have listed the awards among the greatest accomplishments.
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Man, wrestling observer really hates Kane eh?

Top 10 all time favorites:

Stone Cold Steve Austin
The Undertaker
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Chris Jericho
Brock Lesnar
Kurt Angle
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I've noticed Cena fans damn near everywhere think this same thing. They hate great workers like Kidd, love horrible workers like Ryback. Go figure.
No, I like wrestlers who are able to evoke emotion from a crowd and can play a character effectively.

Ryback does both, Kidd does neither.



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I also can't believe how much you let Cena ruin your own lives by doing what he does.

You all may make fun of people with "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMN IT!" for the young kids or marks or whatever, but you guys are even worse than them. You have this deep-seeded legitimate rage for Cena and his fans to the point where you let it affect your day to day life.

Grow up. Seriously.
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It can't get best TV award if it isn't on tv lol
It is in the UK!
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LOU THESZ/RIC FLAIR AWARD (WRESTLER OF THE YEAR)

1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI (419) 3,328

2. C.M. Punk (294) 2,325
3. Kazuchika Okada (75) 1,221
4. John Cena (31) 857
5. Daniel Bryan (5) 204
6. Austin Aries (2) 157
7. Bobby Roode (10) 130
8. Cima (3) 101
9. Sheamus (4) 69
10. The Rock (2) 37

MOST OUTSTANDING WRESTLER

1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI (394) 2,695

2. Kazuchika Okada (114) 1,326
3. Daniel Bryan (153) 1,273
4. El Generico (55) 515
5. C.M. Punk (34) 469
6. Austin Aries (20) 358
7. Davey Richards (18) 317
8. Dolph Ziggler (2) 244
9. Daisuke Sekimoto (5) 197
10. Tetsuya Naito (1) 161

BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW

1. THE ROCK (422) 2,620

2. John Cena (92) 1,564
3. Brock Lesnar (123) 1,309
4. Anderson Silva (55) 733
5. Georges St-Pierre (26) 565
6. Chael Sonnen (9) 317
7. Hiroshi Tanahashi (22) 245
8. Jon Jones (2) 212
9. C.M. Punk (4) 121

FEUD OF THE YEAR

1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI VS. KAZUCHIKA OKADA (275) 1,753

2. Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen (238) 1,689
3. The Rock vs. John Cena (121) 1,136
4. C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (49) 512
5. Ronda Rousey vs. Miesha Tate (15) 371
6. John Cena vs. C.M. Punk (16) 291
7. Blue Panther vs. ***** Casas (25) 271
8. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar (7) 235
9. Yuji Nagata vs. Stack of Arms (8) 214
10. Bobby Roode vs. James Storm (22) 203

TAG TEAM OF THE YEAR

1. CHRISTOPHER DANIELS & KAZARIAN (373) 2,248

2. Kane & Daniel Bryan (124) 1,219
3. Young Bucks (78) 1,071
4. Mark & Jay Briscoe (43) 805
5. Takao Omori & Manabu Soya (73) 612
6. Super Smash Brother (61) 579
7. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi (51) 539
8. Satoshi Kojima & Hiroyoshi Tenzan (8) 347
9. Katsuyori Shibata & Kazushi Sakuraba (2) 184
10. Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow (3) 161

MOST IMPROVED

1. KAZUCHIKA OKADA (517) 2,948

2. Michael Elgin (52) 887
3. Rush (64) 576
4. Damien Sandow (33) 552
5. Bully Ray (25) 344
6. Adam Cole (14) 322
7. Karl Anderson (1) 253
8. Titus O’Neil (9) 194
9. Dolph Ziggler (20) 178
10. Frankie Kazarian (18) 173

BEST ON INTERVIEWS

1. C.M. PUNK (365) 2,668

2. Chael Sonnen (145) 1,557
3. The Rock (129) 1,131
4. Paul Heyman (37) 608
5. Christopher Daniels (12) 299
6. Kevin Steen (14) 291
7. Bully Ray (22) 284
8. Daniel Bryan (14) 272
9. Big Show (2) 176
10. Austin Aries (8) 167

MOST CHARISMATIC

1. THE ROCK (298) 2,077

2. Hiroshi Tanahashi (74) 1,275
3. John Cena (69) 1,067
4. C.M. Punk (107) 1,032
5. Daniel Bryan (67) 539
6. Chael Sonnen (28) 378
7. Brock Lesnar (6) 281
8. Georges St-Pierre (3) 199
9. Shinsuke Nakamura (2) 124
10. Austin Aries (1) 117

BEST TECHNICAL WRESTLER

1. DANIEL BRYAN (391) 2,513

2. Prince Devitt (122) 1,030
3. Davey Richards (43) 969
4. Hiroshi Tanahashi (77) 774
5. Zack Sabre Jr. (52) 536
6. Yuji Nagata (41) 369
7. Austin Aries (13) 273
8. Daisuke Sekimoto (2) 144
9. ***** Casas (5) 134
10. Eddie Edwards (3) 119

BRUISER BRODY MEMORIAL AWARD (BEST BRAWLER)

1. KEVIN STEEN (368) 2,457

2. Togi Makabe (49) 755
3. Bully Ray (71) 726
4. Sheamus (31) 716
5. Brock Lesnar (69) 466
6. Sami Callihan (27) 404
7. Michael Elgin (3) 231
8. Big Show (26) 221
9. Minoru Suzuki (29) 203
10. L.A. Park (11) 176

BEST FLYING WRESTLER

1. KOTA IBUSHI (285) 1,857

2. Ricochet (111) 1,229
3. Pac (88) 1,108
4. El Generico (87) 722
5. A.R. Fox (46) 540
6. La Sombra (17) 415
7. Samuray del Sol (46) 412
8. Prince Devitt (9) 300
9. Mascara Dorada (26) 271
10. Kenny Omega (22) 241

MOST OVERRATED

1. RYBACK (148) 1,028

2. The Miz (88) 825
3. Garett Bischoff (55) 405
4. Randy Orton (21) 299
5. Ken Anderson (9) 295
6. Sheamus (13) 286
7. Matt Morgan (21) 240
8. Big Show (2) 195`
9. Rob Van Dam (14) 142
10. Brodus Clay (1) 134

MOST UNDERRATED

1. TYSON KIDD (286) 1,629

2. Dolph Ziggler (85) 718
3. Daniel Bryan (56) 357
4. Kassius Ohno (32) 293
5. Jack Swagger (9) 260
6. Drew McIntyre (19) 251
7. Sin Cara (18) 209
8. Satoshi Ishii (15) 183
9. Hunico (6) 172
10. Justin Gabriel 139

PROMOTION OF THE YEAR

1. NEW JAPAN PRO WRESTLING (497) 3,452

2. Ultimate Fighting Championships (91) 1,388
3. World Wrestling Entertainment (85) 1,357
4. Dragon Gate (33) 477
5. CHIKARA Pro (19) 344
6. Total Nonstop Action (18) 324
7. Pro Wrestling Guerrilla (3) 308
8. IWRG (5) 255
9. AAA (12) 253
10. ROH 133

BEST WEEKLY TV SHOW

1. TNA IMPACT (122) 1,043

2. Ring of Honor (73) 926
3. WWE NXT (61) 869
4. WWE Monday Night Raw (76) 828
5. WWE Main Event (85) 819
6. Dragon Gate Infinity (65) 781
7. WWE Smackdown (28) 591
8. Bellator (60) 433
9. New Japan World Pro Wrestling (62) 401
10. Fight Factory (36) 289

PRO WRESTLING MATCH OF THE YEAR

1. HIROSHI TANAHASHI VS. MINORU SUZUKI 10/8 TOKYO (277) 2,014

2. John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar 4/29 Chicago(87) 1,202
3. Davey Richards vs. Michael Elgin 3/31 Ft. Lauderdale (146) 1,185
4. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada 6/16 Osaka (121) 1,057
5. Undertaker vs. HHH 4/1 Miami (77) 859
6. Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito 3/4 Tokyo (68) 661
7. Kenny Omega vs. Kota Ibushi 8/18 Tokyo (35) 204
8. C.M. Punk vs. Daniel Bryan 5/20 Raleigh (4) 180
9. The Rock vs. John Cena 4/1 Miami (18) 135
10. Blue Panther vs. ***** Casas 3/2 Mexico City (2) 121

ROOKIE OF THE YEAR

1. DINASTIA (199) 1,530

2. Mr. Touchdown (214) 1,496
3. Eita Kobayashi (106) 755
4. ACH (5) 519
5. Saturyne (31) 341
6. Tadarius Thomas (40) 291
7. Ross & Marshall Von Erich (1) 110

BEST NON-WRESTLER

1. PAUL HEYMAN (479) 2,747

2. Ricardo Rodriguez (97) 1,291
3. Vickie Guerrero (24) 722
4. A.J. (22) 464
5. Gedo (25) 404
6. John Laurinaitis (3) 172
7. Truth Martini (4) 157
8. Vince McMahon (2) 153
9. Nigel McGuinness (8) 129
10. Jim Cornette 99

BEST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER

1. JIM ROSS (234) 1,902

2. Nigel McGuinness (205) 1,647
3. William Regal (64) 967
4. Joe Rogan (130) 965
5. JBL (47) 777
6. Kevin Kelly (29) 364
7. Mike Tenay (10) 192
8. Michael Schiavello (24) 181
9. Jesse Manuel Guillen (12) 175
10. Mike Goldberg (6) 115

WORST TELEVISION ANNOUNCER

1. MICHAEL COLE (166) 1,723

2. Taz (117) 1,242
3. Booker T (151) 1,023
4. Jerry Lawler (109) 920
5. Josh Matthews (23) 412
6. The Miz (28) 214
7. Todd Keneley (17) 184
8. Mike Goldberg (10) 135
9. Jesus Zuniga (12) 95
10. Mike Tenay (8) 90

BEST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW

1. NEW JAPAN KINGS OF PRO WRESTLING 10/8 TOKYO (425)2,618

2. WWE Extreme Rules 4/29 Chicago (118) 1,348
3. WWE WrestleMania 4/1 Miami (13) 1,033
4. New Japan Dominion 6/16 Osaka (23) 479
5. ROH Glory by Honor 10/13 Mississauga (38) 364
6. All Japan 3/20 Tokyo (2) 323
7. CMLL Anniversary show 9/14 Arena Mexico (29) 257
8. UFC 146 All Heavyweight show 5/26 Las Vegas (13) 213
9. WWE TLC 2011 12/18 Baltimore (17) 185
10. TNA Destination X 7/8 Orlando (2) 184

--- End of "A" Category Awards; Start of "B" Category Awards ---

WORST MAJOR WRESTLING SHOW

1. UFC 149 7/21 CALGARY 214

2. Extreme Reunion 4/28 Philadelphia 113
3. WWE No Way Out 5/20 East Rutherford, NJ 94
4. TNA Against All Odds 2/12 Orlando 74
5. TNA Genesis 1/8 Orlando 39
6. WWE Royal Rumble 1/29 St. Louis 32
7. TNA Lockdown 4/15 Nashville 28
8. WWE Hell in a Cell 10/28 Atlanta 27
9. TNA No Surrender 9/9 Orlando 23
10. UFC on FX Maynard vs. Guida 6/22 Atlantic City 19

BEST WRESTLING MANEUVER

1. KAZUCHIKA OKADA RAINMAKER 201

2. Antonio Cesaro Neutralizer 92
3. Daniel Bryan Yes/No/LeBell lock 82
4. Antonio Cesaro versions of bolo forearm 64
5. Ricochet 630 30
6. Sonjay Dutt moonsault double foot stomp 29
7. Dragon Kid dragon rana 18

MOST DISGUSTING PROMOTIONAL TACTIC

1. WWE’S PRESENTATION OF PAUL HEYMAN AND C.M. PUNK COMING IN DURING JERRY LAWLER’S RETURN, AIRING CLIPS OF HIM WHILE HE WAS DEAD AND BEING REVIVED, AND THE FAKE HEART ATTACK PROMO 493

2. Extreme Rising using Sabu’s overdose/passing out while advertising his return to the promotion 44
3. UFC’s handling of Jeremy Stephens’ arrest, trying to bail him out and still have him fight on the show while he was stuck in jail that afternoon 27
4. Linda McMahon’s senatorial campaign and how WWE handled it 19

WORST TELEVISION SHOW

1. WWE RAW 319

2. TNA Impact 199
3. Ultimate Fighter: Nelson vs. Carwin 81
4. WWE Smackdown 71
5. Ring of Honor 41
6. CMLL 17
7. Championship Wrestling from Hollywood 16

WORST MATCH OF THE YEAR

1. JOHN CENA VS. JOHN LAURINAITIS 5/20 RALEIGH 151

2. Santino Marella vs. Ricardo Rodriguez 6/17 E Rutherford 78
3. Clay Guida vs. Gray Maynard 6/22 Atlantic City 48
4. John Cena vs. Kane 1/29 St. Louis 38
5. Gunner vs. Kris Lewis 8/23 Orlando 38
6. Divas Battle Royal 8/20 Fresno 29
7. Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan 4/1 Miami 28
8. Brodus Clay vs. David Otunga 6/17 East Rutherford 25
9. Gunner vs. Garett Bischoff 2/12 Orlando 21

WORST FEUD OF THE YEAR

1. JOHN CENA VS. KANE 253

2. TNA vs. Aces and 8s 192
3. John Cena vs. John Laurinaitis 65
4. Kane vs. Zack Ryder 43
5. Vickie Guerrero vs. A.J. Lee 41
6. A.J. Styles vs. Claire Lynch 19
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