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Re: If John Cena was a heel, what gimmick would you want him to have besides thuganom

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as long as he didn't wear a suit i wouldn't mind, he just looks weird wearing one, so he wouldn't look like a threat of any kind
What if he came at you looking like this?

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Re: If John Cena was a heel, what gimmick would you want him to have besides thuganom

Anybody who does want him to go back to that Thuganomics persona is an idiot. It'd have to be something fresh and brand new for Cena, an actual challenge. Move forward, not backward.

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This. A delusional and egoistical guy turned into the "hero" by the machinery of the WWE. The commentators must talk good about him, he must be in all the posters, he receives unlimited title matches and his time is always billed as the most important. He is beaten 90% of the matches but then wins with the four moves of doom. He buries all the young stars that one day could overshadow or threaten his position, but always in a way that makes him look like the good guy despite all the crowd knowing is just hypocrisy and the company forcing us to love him. I even could see the referees cheating for him. He will continue to be the guy of the corny jokes and the colourful t-shirts.
Man, I miss Rock and Austin. Oh wait, you weren't talking about Rock and Austin? Oh, my bad.

Seriously though, kids love the guy, and he does nothing as a heel that no one else could do in his position. What you're talking about is a character that would have nothing to do with what made him popular to begin with, like turning Austin into a corporate hack in 2001, it was a complete failure. Rock was a great heel because he was funny (and also a corporate kiss-ass, pretty boy, so maybe similarities there), but he was also kindof a failure as a heel because ppl continued to cheer him (yeah, they did, except live audiences after he expressly pissed on them), and it was just a three month stint. I'm assuming Cena's heel turn would be more than three months.

The only successful heel turn of an extremely popular character was Hulk Hogan. So, if you think shit will get hot like the nWo got hot, then turn Cena heel. But, I don't think any faction or nWo-copy will ever shock and entertain like the original did just because of high expectations.

The desire to turn Cena heel is based on ppl who don't like his character altogether. Ppl who say he's become stale are mainly ppl who thought he was stale yrs ago. His legion of fans like him today just as much as they used to. And, I promise you, a lot of Cena haters will cheer for him for turning heel, it won't make sense.

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Re: If John Cena was a heel, what gimmick would you want him to have besides thuganom

John Cena praises Bin laden and burns the US flag.
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Re: If John Cena was a heel, what gimmick would you want him to have besides thuganom

He should just play up the Super Cena fact, Casuals would hate him for being heel and smarks would hate him for playing up characteristically what we hate the most in his current character.

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The desire to turn Cena heel is based on ppl who don't like his character altogether. Ppl who say he's become stale are mainly ppl who thought he was stale yrs ago. His legion of fans like him today just as much as they used to. And, I promise you, a lot of Cena haters will cheer for him for turning heel, it won't make sense.
I know.

I'm watching wrestling for 6 years, so I know nothing more than what people say here and there about nWo or the Attitude Era. My view of how a heel Cena should be is based on the next: Some of the people who hate Cena love heels. So if you turn Cena heel and gave him an edge, or turn him into a cocky and arrogant bastard, the IWC marks will love him. So if you want Cena to be a hated heel the WWE must continue and oversize the things that make Cena hated: the "shoved down out throats", the "exaggerated and undeserved prominence", the "Super Cena", etc etc. Perhaps that way people would still hate him. Or perhaps IWC marks would say "OMG Cena is so funny being a corpirate prick, burying and trolling people he's GOAT". It's a risk we have to take.
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Re: If John Cena was a heel, what gimmick would you want him to have besides thuganom

Easy. John Cena becomes 'the worst man in the history of the world'.
He crosses the street without looking both ways, he steals petty shit from other wrestlers despite being a millionaire and it emerges that all the 'sick children' he was visiting were actually paid midgets who helped him convince people he was a nice guy.
Every match, the midgets would carry Cena to the ring on a giant throne whilst a moustachioed Freak Show owner flogs them from behind to keep things moving.
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Re: If John Cena was a heel, what gimmick would you want him to have besides thuganom

Corporate Prick/Corporate Champion is a good one. Take John's charisma while using everything the WWE is forcing him to be, against the fans.

It's either that or a combo of the Supercena/Dr. of Thuganomics (Think RTWM last year and the promos he used against the Rock), with a bit of darker edge (Eminem 2010 dark). Have him go emo while having a thugghis edge. Basically like his own Hollywood Hogan or how Rocky became The Rock.

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Brings back his THE Prototype gimmick from UPW.

Imagine him coming out to the ring and saying that he is only programmed to do 5 moves so thats all he can do.

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Re: If John Cena was a heel, what gimmick would you want him to have besides thuganom

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I can't stand when people say this. NO HE'S NOT. His character has NO heelish to it at all. He's still a superhero in wrestling.
Im sorry you cant stand it, but he is in my opinion.

Heels are the characters that the viewers love to hate and for most adults, Cena is the biggest hate figure in the company. Your right, he is still a superhero, but thats exactly the point. People HATE supercena, yet he is still going out there, doing the superman schtick and when anyone like Rock or CM Punk calls him out on it he just gives a smug smile as if to stay theres nothing anyone can do about it.

The concept of face and heel is not as cookie cutter as it used to be, most of the "bad guys" are the fan favourites these days. You dont have to go out on the microphone and tell everyone that the town they come from sucks to be a 21st century heel in wrestling. Everybody knows Wrestling is fake these days so Cena represents the next incarnation of kayfabe. On paper he is a generic face, but he is a complete character that represents a face for some and a heel for others depending on what demographic you belong to and what product you want to see. This is why they have persisted with him so long and say nobody divides opinion like he does. He isnt just the top face or the top heel, he is both.

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