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01-19-2013, 10:51 AM
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Wheel Man for SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Diva's divison at all time low: Down to 10 female wrestlers on main roster
Yeah well here's the problem with what's left too:
AJ Lee: Gets way too much mic time considering her limited mic skills. Is okay in the ring.
Aksana: is terrible
Alicia Fox: She's fairly decent in the ring, but no better than an average of the past.
Cameron: Little more than a dancer, but at least she does that well.
Kaitlyn: One of the worst on the roster
Layla: Hot, but mediocre and slow wrestler
Naomi: She's actually pretty good, top 3 behind Natalya and Tamina in ring, #1 in presentation, but probably #2 overall behind Natalya
Natalya: Best diva left. At worst she's #2, and barely. But you'd have to provide a pretty sound argument to claim she isn't the best one left.
Rosa: Awful in ring. Possibly the worst one. She's a decent manager though.
Tamina: Good wrestler, but doesn't seem great on the mic and is kind of ugly (meaning Vince likely won't push her).
You could literally fire half the remaining divas and barely notice.
WWE let go their best diva every time they got established. Melina was the best diva since Trish and Lita. . .gone. Beth was the best diva since Melina got fired. . .then she gets fired. Eve was arguably the best remaining diva. . .and she quit.
Time to stop pushing models Vince. If he's gonna use female wrestlers, he should make sure they're at least actual athletes first. Natalya, Tamina, and Naomi should be used the most since they're the ones closest to being able to put on a real match, and then he can sprinkle in eye candy like Layla and whoever every now and then.
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01-19-2013, 11:11 AM
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Re: Diva's divison at all time low: Down to 10 female wrestlers on main roster
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AJ, Misused?! If anything their over using her
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I'd say misused and overused. She's overused in her valet role. Misused because she should be in the ring. Especially now with Eve gone, and the title on someone who is very green, AJ and Natalya are likely the best two in ring women they have on the active roster at the moment. I don't like the character AJ at all, anymore, and think she is vastly over pushed.
But she is good in the ring. I will give her that. Her FCW and indy matches were pretty entertaining for a diva, especially her top rope moves. If WWE lets her do what she wants in the ring I think some would be pleasantly surprised. I think for example her and Paige if allowed to do what they wanted would put on quite an entertaining match in the middle of a PPV card.
Yet they don't. But they let Aksana and Alica Foxx do what they want. That's...yeah...brilliance.
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01-19-2013, 11:11 AM
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Re: Diva's divison at all time low: Down to 10 female wrestlers on main roster
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Alicia Fox: She's fairly decent in the ring, but no better than an average of the past.
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Alicia Fox is terrible in the ring. Not sure where you're getting ''decent'' from. I've never seen her wrestle a good match (by divas standards) and she used to botch moves often, and unnecessarily oversell moves to point where you'd think she injured herself. It's probably these reasons why you hardly ever see her wrestle anymore. Just another un-talented model diva.
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01-19-2013, 11:14 AM
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Re: Diva's divison at all time low: Down to 10 female wrestlers on main roster
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Alicia Fox is terrible in the ring. Not sure where you're getting ''decent'' from. I've never seen her wrestle a good match (by divas standards) and she used to botch moves often, and unnecessarily oversell moves to point where you'd think she injured herself. It's probably these reasons why you hardly ever see her wrestle anymore. Just another un-talented model diva.
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omg YES
I was seriously about to post this exact statement. Alicia Fox = decent might be the biggest off statement I can ever see. Especially when Kaitlyn gets grilled herself by being "one of the worst on the roster" even though her spear on Monday > anything Fox has done in her WWE tenure.
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01-21-2013, 07:14 AM
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Re: Diva's divison at all time low: Down to 10 female wrestlers on main roster
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Alicia Fox is terrible in the ring. Not sure where you're getting ''decent'' from. I've never seen her wrestle a good match (by divas standards) and she used to botch moves often, and unnecessarily oversell moves to point where you'd think she injured herself. It's probably these reasons why you hardly ever see her wrestle anymore. Just another un-talented model diva.
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Okay, lol. She may have botched but she actually has improved to be honest. She use to be quite sloppy in the ring, but you must only watch Raw and SD diva matches and not any Superstars or like this week, Saturday Morning Slam matches. Alicia and Nattie wrestled one of the best diva matches for quite some time. She even wrestled a good match with Kelly Kelly back in 2009. Also watch her NXT matches recently. She really isn't sloppy anymore.
If anyone who is sloppy and one of the worst wrestlers on the roster, it's Tamina. Seriously people only like her because of her dad. Minus her match with Beth, I have never really seen her wrestle a good match.
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01-21-2013, 08:24 AM
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Re: Diva's divison at all time low: Down to 10 female wrestlers on main roster
This is something WWE have brought on themselves, They were firing-happy a couple of years back letting Tiffany go when she was starting to come into her own, Firing Maria and Melina, Maryse, & Mickie, embarrassing the latter on her way out. Misusing Divas who had potential like Maxine, so she ended up choosing to leave herself. Treating Gail Kim so bad, She quit. Having a damn fine worker in Naomi dancing with jiggly tits, Having another fine worker in AJ Lee in love angle after love angle after love angle, She probably only wrestled 10 matches on TV last year. Firing Divas in Developmental who had potential to be big stars on the main roster like Sofia Cortez..
Kaitlyn doesn't really have a veteran there now, who can guide her, for example when Candice Michelle was womens champion, She had Melina and Beth who carried her to a certain extent, who made her look good, which helped her title reign, Kaitlyn doesn't have a Melina or a Beth to fight with.. Theres Nattie, but lets face it, She won't be getting any title feuds any time soon...
This situation they are in, is their own doing, Its like a domino effect...
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01-21-2013, 08:50 AM
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Re: Diva's divison at all time low: Down to 10 female wrestlers on main roster
preferedly every division should have at least 11 members/teams, 1 champion(s) and 10 contenders, nice and simple right?
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01-21-2013, 09:03 AM
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Re: Diva's divison at all time low: Down to 10 female wrestlers on main roster
10 girls....I didn't even realize they had that many.
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