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Old 01-17-2013, 08:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Titles are just a prop to get someone over.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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The top title is the one that's on Raw, whether it's the WHC or the WWE title.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:46 AM   #13 (permalink)
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It's unbelievable just how long it took you to say absolutely nothing. Yes, "World" implies more than "WWE", but the WWE don't care that you see it that way. What matters to them is what they'd have us believe, not what we can logically deduce.
I could care less about what WWE wants me to believe, its all about what the viewer wants to recognize. I recognize the World Championship as being higher than the WWE Championship because of the points I listed in the opening post, if WWE believes otherwise than that's fine.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:53 AM   #14 (permalink)
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im probably the only person in the world that points out that the World title is the WCW belt, so to be fair it already got the shaft long before the brand split, wwe just weren't being honest about it until the Booker T "i dont want to be on Smackdown" and the Raw vs Smackdown Survivor series fued one year later

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I just think it's ridiculous for a serious wrestling company to have TWO major ("world") championships, ffs. It could've been much more simple - Raw and SmackDown championship for each brand, and the big one, WWE Championship, defended only 3-5 times per year.

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The top title is the one that's on Raw, whether it's the WHC or the WWE title.
I keep on hearing a lot of ppl asserting this, but this is not always true. The entirety of 2005 focused on the WHC which resides in Smackdown under Batista where it main-evented or went high in the card over WWE Title in Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Vengeance, and Summerslam.

Here's what I think which title was more dominant for every year in the past:

2002: WHC (Raw)- carried by Triple H
2003: WHC (Raw)- HHH
2004: WHC (Raw)- HHH
2005: WHC (Smackdown)- Batista
2006: Even; WHC (SD)- Batista; WWE (Raw)- Cena
2007: WWE (Raw)- Cena
2008: WWE (Raw)- Orton, HHH and Edge
2009: Even; WWE (Raw)- Orton and Cena; WHC (Smackdown)- Hardy and Punk
2010: WWE (Raw)- Cena
2011: WWE (Raw)- Cena and Punk
2012: WWE (Raw)- Punk
2013: Hoping there would be an equal share of spotlight once again.

I really think the brand-union hurt the credibility of the WHC since its weekly presence made it look inferior to the WWE Title. A world title should always be the crown jewel of the show.

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Is this a joke thread? WWE championship is a heavyweight title.
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I just think it's ridiculous for a serious wrestling company to have TWO major ("world") championships, ffs. It could've been much more simple - Raw and SmackDown championship for each brand, and the big one, WWE Championship, defended only 3-5 times per year.

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Two world titles can really enhance the product. W/o two titles, Punk probably would have never won a world title to begin with, and it would be taking Ziggler even longer to get one. Batista probably would've gotten it, but Sheamus I doubt it. Its great at creating stars.

Also, if there was a championship above the brand titles then the overall title would be THE world title, and the brand titles mid card titles no matter how they're treated. You can't have a heirarchy where major status is placed on a title not at the top of the heirarchy. Just can't happen. Its not a claim to the best in the world. At least Orton/Taker/Batista/Edge could hold the SD belt and say "Yeah, Raw is bigger, but I can claim to be the best in the world." If there was a WWE title above the brand titles, the brand champions just couldn't say that.
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Two world titles can really enhance the product. W/o two titles, Punk probably would have never won a world title to begin with, and it would be taking Ziggler even longer to get one. Batista probably would've gotten it, but Sheamus I doubt it. Its great at creating stars.

Also, if there was a championship above the brand titles then the overall title would be THE world title, and the brand titles mid card titles no matter how they're treated. You can't have a heirarchy where major status is placed on a title not at the top of the heirarchy. Just can't happen. Its not a claim to the best in the world. At least Orton/Taker/Batista/Edge could hold the SD belt and say "Yeah, Raw is bigger, but I can claim to be the best in the world." If there was a WWE title above the brand titles, the brand champions just couldn't say that.
It works when there's a brand split, but without the brand split it's lesser. And using the World Title for the sole purpose of creating new stars, while the WWE Title is set aside for the golden boys hurts the World Title's prestige. It's way too obvious that the people going after the WWE Title are bigger stars than the people going after the World Heavyweight Title. They could've fixed this by having Ziggler drop the briefcase to Cena, but by having Ziggler go over at TLC, they established that Cena is "too good for the WHC".

WWE shouldn't have to rely on a belt to create stars. They should just book a guy really strongly against high profile opponents.

The only reason they kept the WHC areound is because the Rock cast a huge shadow over the WWE Title. They were forced to keep the belt on Punk all this time but needed to keep the rest of their top stars relevant. Once Rock is gone, they can have one World Title. Randy Orton isn't as big a name as he used to be, and John Cena while still pretty much the top guy, isn't really the in the title picture as much as he used to be. So there's plenty of room to have new stars chasing the real top prize.

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Is this a joke thread? WWE championship is a heavyweight title.
But it's name is not the "WWE Heavyweight Championship", it's simply the "WWE Championship" which indicates it's nothing more than a company title while the "World Heavyweight Championship" indicates that the title does not belong to the WWE directly (which it does) and that the holder is the champion of the world, not just a company.

Despite what WWE wants me to believe, I place the World Heavyweight Championship above the WWE Championship simply because of what the title stands for.
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