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Old 01-21-2013, 11:52 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Default Re: This roster has the potential to be great and even equal the attitude era.

I think the current roster is extremely talented but lazy. Since they don't possess the natural charisma, voices, and superstar look that most of the people in the Attitude Era had I feel that they should've compensated for this by being relentless in improving their craft. That being said, when you have a creative department as incompetent as this Era's is it can make you feel apathetic and depressed, just look at what these shows do to us on Monday nights.

Bottom line, they don't have the potential to be megastars on the Attitude Era's level but if they were properly used this Era could have an extremely balanced and very enjoyable roster.

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Old 01-21-2013, 12:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I believe in the importance of catchphrases.


Attitude catchphrases:
"3:16 says I just whopped you're ass"
"IT DOESN'T MATTER "

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Current catchphrases
Punk; " I demand respect", Cena: ??, Ziggler : ???, Ryback "Feed me more"
It wasn't the catchphrases, it was the delivery. "If ya smell...," "It doesn't matter," so on never took genius, it took delivery. The writers could come up with it overnight if they wanted to. Lol if nothing else hire Rock and Austin as catchphrase consultants.

I don't mean to bash your pt, because I love those catchphrases. But Rock and Austin were all about how they said it in my opinion. And Ziggler's got "stealing the show," which is actually a legitimate pt on his part, he basically says the same thing in real life about giving the best performance on the card.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:38 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Current catchphrases
Punk; " I demand respect", Cena: ??, Ziggler : ???, Ryback "Feed me more"
Cena's is obviously "the champ is here". Come on...
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WWE insist on burying their talent and only having a couple of new stars; in the last generation it was only about (Cena, Orton, Batista)
Lashley should have never opened his mouth, Kendrick had great talent and so did MVP
Kennedy ruined himself with all the injuries.
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WWE insist on burying their talent and only having a couple of new stars; in the last generation it was only about (Cena, Orton, Batista)
Lashley should have never opened his mouth, Kendrick had great talent and so did MVP
Kennedy ruined himself with all the injuries.
Bury, bury, bury, WWE is burying itself, Vince likes to bury his own money deep underground and never use it. Specific guys are buried, they don't bury all their talent. Edge, HHH, and Undertaker were also big stars back then, and they also tried to promote Jeff Hardy and CM Punk (3 world title reigns from 2008-09; difference between heel champion and buried wrestler). Did the Attitude Era bury everyone other than Taker, HHH, Rock, and Austin? Was Foley buried? WWE doesn't purposely destroy their own stars, and that's what 'bury' means.
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It's all about the writers.

People have said that the 1995 roster was bad and awful- Most of it became huge in the Attitude.

Good writers.
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You could have the best roster ever but when you have terrible writers and a lazy booking policy it doesn't matter one jolt. The AE was full of mediocre guys who were BOOKED to look strong.

There is an awesome episode of Raw is War on Youtube (if you search for Raw awesome show you will find it) but look at the matches on there-

Val Venis vs Albert... awful right? Nope, because there was a story where Albert and Droz ambushed Venis and tattooed him so Venis was after payback.

Mark Henry vs Viscera- another awful match on paper but it was part of a story involving Henry and D'Lo brown and Viscera betting that Henry couldn't slam him.

Big Boss Man vs Austin- Pretty average main event but was part of a wider angle involving Shawn Michaels booking Undertaker and HHH (both corporate members)to face each other that night forcing McMahon to pick Boss Man to face Austin and try to save face.

Let's look at the match everyone was moaning about on Smackdown-

Tensai vs Khali- awful match and yes it was awful because we had no reason to watch it- if they had given it even a shred of context we might of given it time of day to see how it affected the story.

It is the booking that makes the show, not the roster.
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You could have the best roster ever but when you have terrible writers and a lazy booking policy it doesn't matter one jolt. The AE was full of mediocre guys who were BOOKED to look strong.

There is an awesome episode of Raw is War on Youtube (if you search for Raw awesome show you will find it) but look at the matches on there-

Val Venis vs Albert... awful right? Nope, because there was a story where Albert and Droz ambushed Venis and tattooed him so Venis was after payback.

Mark Henry vs Viscera- another awful match on paper but it was part of a story involving Henry and D'Lo brown and Viscera betting that Henry couldn't slam him.

Big Boss Man vs Austin- Pretty average main event but was part of a wider angle involving Shawn Michaels booking Undertaker and HHH (both corporate members)to face each other that night forcing McMahon to pick Boss Man to face Austin and try to save face.

Let's look at the match everyone was moaning about on Smackdown-

Tensai vs Khali- awful match and yes it was awful because we had no reason to watch it- if they had given it even a shred of context we might of given it time of day to see how it affected the story.

It is the booking that makes the show, not the roster.
I constantly claim the AE was a little overrated. Not that it wasn't the prime of pro wrestling, but that it wasn't as amazing as ppl think it was, that it was just driven by a handful of ALL TIME GREATS and wasn't actually a deep, amazing roster. But, you just wrote what has to be the most constructive, intelligent post I've ever read on these forums. You actually showed that an entire card of mediocre wrestlers had great storylines. Its so true. Why couldn't Tensai/Khali have SOME build? Even a night's worth of build, or a wk's worth of build, just have Tensai mock Khali or something, anything, but they just threw them out there. Its not even about great storylines; if mediocre midcard matches just have decent storylines it goes a long way, and complements the great main event storylines.
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i think so just depends on the booking and backstage politics,especially with the new crop of stars in NXT
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Default Re: This roster has the potential to be great and even equal the attitude era.

To follow up on a post I wrote earlier: The Attitude Era was driven by gimmicks that were the reverse of what Vince had pushed between 1984 and 1996, and later Jim Herd in the early 90's.

Papa Shango
1-2-3 Kid
Stunning Steve Austin
Hunter Hearst Helmsley
The Roadie
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Justin Hawk Bradshaw
Smoking Gunn Billy
Double J

Does that sound exciting? Amazing what a gimmick change can do.
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