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01-12-2013, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HerbUWF
I remember Ziggler for his bumps. How many amazing matches has the guy had? He's no Shawn Michaels or Bret Hart.
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you obviously haven't seen many matches. Ziggler has been having some good ones for years. Edge RR 11, Cm punk RR12, Cena tlc 12, Both his matches with Jericho were good. Their summerslam match was easily match of the night.
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01-12-2013, 04:52 PM
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#72 (permalink)
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Re: Ziggler deserves better than the World Title.
WWE's shitty writing and poor use of Ziggler has played a part in his matches going under the radar I think. He's easily one of the most consistent in ring performers they have right now. His match on Main Event with Sheamus was really good.
And what really separates him from someone like Cena or Orton? Cena cuts the worst promos by far and it's rare that we get a really good to great match out of him. Orton is as bland as anyone can look... shaved head, muscular, plain black tights, is a decent wrestler, HORRIBLE on the mic, lifeless. Yet, he's been insanely over with the crowd. So again, how anyone can say Ziggler isn't capable is mistaken, in my opinion.
He just loses majority of his matches and now he's been thrown in a shitty storyline with AJ Lee and Big E. Langston. Sad.
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01-12-2013, 04:53 PM
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#73 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by NO!
WWE's shitty writing and poor use of Ziggler has played a part in his matches going under the radar I think. He's easily one of the most consistent in ring performers they have right now. His match on Main Event with Sheamus was really good.
And what really separates him from someone like Cena or Orton? Cena cuts the worst promos by far and it's rare that we get a really good to great match out of him. Orton is as bland as anyone can look... shaved head, muscular, plain black tights, is a decent wrestler, HORRIBLE on the mic, lifeless. Yet, he's been insanely over with the crowd. So again, how anyone can say Ziggler isn't capable is mistaken, in my opinion.
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exactly. Give ziggler a good 20/30 minutes he'll steal the show
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01-12-2013, 05:02 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: Ziggler deserves better than the World Title.
i am a fan but for me upper midcard is where he belongs, he great in ring, problemly sells to much at times, but hes boring forgetable on the mic and lacks charisma but then he should be ahead rycrap
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01-12-2013, 05:02 PM
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Pulling my hair out until Game of Thrones season four
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Re: Ziggler deserves better than the World Title.
He doesn't deserve better than anything, he's got nothing going for him but his selling. He screams midcarder.
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01-12-2013, 05:05 PM
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Re: Ziggler deserves better than the World Title.
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Originally Posted by NO!
I have no idea what you people are talking about, Dolph Ziggler rules. He should definitely be a main eventer. If it means anything, he's WAY ahead of Ryback in terms of talent.
Also, what matches are you guys watching? Every match I see him in usually has the crowd reacting.
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Yeah dude, I love all his matches. Even w/o crazy spots he's just entertaining. He's constantly acting, he's never just doing nothing. I swear he's straight out of a TV show.
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01-12-2013, 05:08 PM
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Re: Ziggler deserves better than the World Title.
He's barely good enough for the WHC. Not everyone in the company is WWE Championship material, and I for one don't think Ziggler should be anywhere near it. He's a great performer and can take a bump, but he's mediocre in all other aspects.
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01-12-2013, 05:09 PM
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#78 (permalink)
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If del rio and miz were wwe champion, ziggler definitely should be.
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01-12-2013, 05:11 PM
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Re: Ziggler deserves better than the World Title.
Eh... I don't think so. I think he's a good challenger at best. Ziggler isn't there in my eyes. To me it's like when Jeff was getting pushed except Ziggler isn't a total dipshit when it comes to working.
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01-12-2013, 05:23 PM
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Re: Ziggler deserves better than the World Title.
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Originally Posted by Tyrion Lannister
He doesn't deserve better than anything, he's got nothing going for him but his selling. He screams midcarder.
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The irony of this coming from a Wade Barrett supporter, just saying.
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