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Old 01-13-2013, 04:02 PM   #111 (permalink)
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When has Ziggler ever cut a good promo? The only thing I'd consider anywhere close to 'good' is the backstage segment before his title match with Punk on the opening Raw of 2012. Other than that, he's very bland with the most generic shit making up his content.


backstage trash talking aj, then spearing cena though the bathroom stale. If you didn't think that was great you're nuts
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:07 PM   #112 (permalink)
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backstage trash talking aj, then spearing cena though the bathroom stale. If you didn't think that was great you're nuts
That was one time. I don't know why you're acting so outraged at the suggestion that Bryan is better than Ziggler, either you underrate Bryan or you think Ziggler's better than he is.
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That was one time. I don't know why you're acting so outraged at the suggestion that Bryan is better than Ziggler, either you underrate Bryan or you think Ziggler's better than he is.


because Bryan is not better.... Simple as that. I personally think Bryan should be in the world title picture, not ziggler.
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because Bryan is not better.... Simple as that. I personally think Bryan should be in the world title picture, not ziggler.
It really is a matter of opinion though.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:16 PM   #115 (permalink)
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because Bryan is not better.... Simple as that. I personally think Bryan should be in the world title picture, not ziggler.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:25 PM   #116 (permalink)
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If only we could get Triple H to have another run for it/with it maybe then we wouldn't look down on it so. I can't believe this title was once called the richest prize in the business, now we think Ziggler is better than it, damn that title should be put out of its misery, stop the bleeding or something.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:27 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Back in the summer of 2010 when Barrett was in Nexus he looked like he belonged in the main event (his rookie year), Ziggler does not - he's just a midcarder for life or atleast he should be. Barrett damn near carried that whole stable on his own.
I just don't see how Ziggler couldn't have done the same thing if given the opportunity. I don't see what makes Barrett that much better than Dolph to be honest. I prefer Dolph in the ring, and Barrett on the mic. I can't say that either can't make it in the main event.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:32 PM   #118 (permalink)
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If only we could get Triple H to have another run for it/with it maybe then we wouldn't look down on it so. I can't believe this title was once called the richest prize in the business, now we think Ziggler is better than it, damn that title should be put out of its misery, stop the bleeding or something.
The ONLY time the WHC has mattered inside a WWE/F ring was during the first few years of the brand extension. They had to make it seem important enough to be looked at as one of the top titles in the business if they were to make the extension work.

Once they decided to abandon most of the extension, it was no longer necessary to have it look like the top title.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:42 PM   #119 (permalink)
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The ONLY time the WHC has mattered inside a WWE/F ring was during the first few years of the brand extension. They had to make it seem important enough to be looked at as one of the top titles in the business if they were to make the extension work.

Once they decided to abandon most of the extension, it was no longer necessary to have it look like the top title.
I think it was Taker and Batista leaving. They were legit top stars who were used to pump up SD. Unless Cena or Punk are moved there, they got nothing . Maybe if an Orton heel turn is really successful, or if Ziggler becomes a really successful heel, things will change. I'm high on Sheamus, and think he's better than Batista, but that's not a widely held opinion.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:30 PM   #120 (permalink)
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When has Ziggler ever cut a good promo? The only thing I'd consider anywhere close to 'good' is the backstage segment before his title match with Punk on the opening Raw of 2012. Other than that, he's very bland with the most generic shit making up his content.
I thought his promo with Foley at the start of the year was good.

His promo on AJ was pretty good. Many people were praising it at time, including non-Ziggler fans. Most notably remember Starbuck giving it praise and he/she isn't a Ziggler fan. Go to 2:10 in this video:



I also thought his short little promo at TLC prior to his match with John Cena was good, but I can't find a video on that. He's had some good moments in promos, but sometimes he's just hit and miss. As a fan of his, I know he isn't the best mic worker, but he isn't as bad as people make him out to be. But I find it a little unfair for you to say often times how crap you think he is on the mic, when you haven't been watching the shows for most of last year so you likely haven't seen much of his mic work at all from 2012, and haven't seen the improvements he's made on the mic, and are perhaps basing your opinion on outdated stuff.
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