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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

Two things.... Hogan was passing the torch and everyone knew Austin's career was winding down so Rocky was a more logical choice.

Austin also blammed Hogan for his poor treatment in WCW
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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

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Lot of misinformation here.

Hogan vs Austin was the originally slated match. Hogan and Austin couldn't agree how the match would flow (the match itself, not the outcome; Hogan had agreed to lose clean to either of them) so it got nixed and Rock stepped in and faced Hogan.

Do any of you people even care about facts? Steve was never the first choice to face Hulk, that is a indisputable fact. Steve was arranged to lose the undisputed title to Hunter at Wrestlemania x8 but turned it down then was slated to lose to Hall until he got the finish changed the day of Mania. Steve has said in many candid interviews he was only offered Hulk once he retired for a couple of years then turned it down.

People blow this whole "beef" they had way out of proportion. Hulk debuted in WCW July 94 while Steve left early 95, that means they spent less than 1 year together in WCW so how could Hulk bury him? Hulk did turn down an idea for Steve to be his step brother and thats probably why Steve made fun of Hulk in ECW but Steve has said many times he wanted to work with Hulk.
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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

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Steve has said many times he wanted to work with Hulk.
I distinctly remember an interview in which Steve Austin mentioned that he thought the idea was uninteresting and that their styles were too similar to make an interesting match. He came off as very apathetic toward it all.

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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

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Austin was bigger than The Rock. There is no two ways around it.
pre-2000 maybe, however, ever since then they both shared the cake, hell maybe Rock got more because of the mainstream attention he had in the early 00's

Austin/Hogan was never planned for WM 18, even Austin denied it, and rock did an interview in 2002 saying he knew about the program ever since October 01

it was suppose to happen on WM 22 however both couldn't agree to terms and austin wasn't interested to return to the ring again

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Steve Austin facing Scott Hall was a joke, that match shouldn't of happened. Austin deserved a more high profile match then that. Austin should of won the 2002 Royal Rumble and went on to beat Chris Jericho for the Undisputed Title.
and ruin Triple h's epic return in 2002 ? Fuck no

face it, Austin got a bit stale in 2002 and wasn't as red-hot as he was in 1998, Triple h however became a face (as a main eventer) for the very first time and it was something fresh, hell it even got the ultimate crowd pop at MSG

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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

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Austin got a bit stale in 2002 and wasn't as red-hot as he was in 1998
Austin was starting to regain his crowd reaction and chemistry in early 2001. He was starting to get back on the same level as Rock. Then he turned heel and it was the worst idea EVER. Austin never recovered from that.FFS, If they were going to turn him heel, he should have had the same gimmick from '96. The psychotic Austin>>>Whiney crybaby that is afraid of Krispin Wah and sings songs to Vince Austin.


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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

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Do any of you people even care about facts? Steve was never the first choice to face Hulk, that is a indisputable fact. Steve was arranged to lose the undisputed title to Hunter at Wrestlemania x8 but turned it down then was slated to lose to Hall until he got the finish changed the day of Mania. Steve has said in many candid interviews he was only offered Hulk once he retired for a couple of years then turned it down.

People blow this whole "beef" they had way out of proportion. Hulk debuted in WCW July 94 while Steve left early 95, that means they spent less than 1 year together in WCW so how could Hulk bury him? Hulk did turn down an idea for Steve to be his step brother and thats probably why Steve made fun of Hulk in ECW but Steve has said many times he wanted to work with Hulk.
But Hogan has said plenty of times that he had heat with Austin. So there's not like it's nothing to the story.

Back in 1993, Austin & Pillman were over with the fans as the Hollywood Blondes. Bischoff, seeing how over Austin was and due to Pillman being injured, broke the team up, gave Austin the US Title and promised him a future match with the World Champion.

Supposedly, Flair wanted to feud with Austin in the summer of 1994 (off the strength of their previous feud) and eventually drop the title to him but the plan was changed when Hogan signed to WCW. Then, Austin was placed in a feud with Steamboat, where Steamboat won the US Title but got injured shortly after and Bischoff awarded the title to Austin. Minutes later, he loses it to Duggan. Supposedly, Austin didn't want to do the job but went along with it because he was still being promised a World Title match, this time with Hogan.

When he got injured in Japan, Bischoff fired him over the phone. If I'm not mistaken, Bischoff said he wanted to conduct interviews with Austin while he was injured and when he sent Schiavone to interview him, he could hear Austin cussing him out in the background on the phone, so he sent him a Fed Ex. Also heard that Bischoff & Hogan saw Austin was injury plagued, overpaid and not profitable.

It all depends on what people want to believe. In 1995, Austin had a legit case for disliking Hogan because the entire plan for Austin changed once Hogan came aboard. He never got the World Title match that he was promised and the 1 guy that was willing to work him for the title and was the head booker, basically lost all his power to Hogan.

Now, with the success Austin has had and the fact that he wanted to be released, you can't go off interviews that he's cut in the past 8-10 years and say "he never had heat with Hogan", especially when Hogan admitted it was heat and Austin, back then, was legit pissed that he never got what he was promised in 94-95. He was held down by SOMEBODY, which explains his stance and attitude in the shoot promos he's done.
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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

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Do any of you people even care about facts?


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Steve was never the first choice to face Hulk, that is a indisputable fact.
He was definitely in the discussion to face Austin.

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Steve was arranged to lose the undisputed title to Hunter at Wrestlemania x8 but turned it down then was slated to lose to Hall until he got the finish changed the day of Mania. Steve has said in many candid interviews he was only offered Hulk once he retired for a couple of years then turned it down.
Of course he said that. What was he supposed to say? "I couldn't agree on a finish with Hogan, so I backed out and let The Rock have a better match with him than I would have"

Oh, ok then.

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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

he could basically job to rock and still be the bigger Wrestling star... there was no doubting Rock was the number 3 guy

and probably felt losing to Austin would make him look the number 2 superstar in the company of all time. so losing to rock made no difference to his overall status but who is number 1 between Austin and Hogan is debatable and one going over the other would have cemented in a lot of peoples minds.

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Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

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I distinctly remember an interview in which Steve Austin mentioned that he thought the idea was uninteresting and that their styles were too similar to make an interesting match. He came off as very apathetic toward it all.
Let me clarify, Steve has said many times he had no intrest in working with Hulk and he has also said many times that he did want to work with him, idk why but he said both a lot.



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He was definitely in the discussion to face Austin.
Its a fact that Steve at no point was ever considered to face Hulk at Wrestlemania X8 Hulk, Hall, Nash, Rock, and Steve have all confirmed this many times.

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Of course he said that. What was he supposed to say? "I couldn't agree on a finish with Hogan, so I backed out and let The Rock have a better match with him than I would have" Oh, ok then.
Why would Steve admit in many interviews that he was offered Hulk at WM 04-06 and turned it down each time but not Wrestlemania x8? He even said in his 2011 dvd that he felt he needed to be the guy working with Hulk. Ppl have all these speculations yet have zero merit. This is just a lame rumor spread by angry Stone Cold fans to make him look good.

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But Hogan has said plenty of times that he had heat with Austin. So there's not like it's nothing to the story.
Only time ive ever heard Hulk admit they had any heat was at the HOF when Bret was there and he claimed he didnt know what it was about. Steve has bashed Hulk in the past but also said really great things about him to so once again i think he just cant make up his mind just like how hes said so many times he didnt want to work with him then would turn around and say he does.

Steve probably resented Hulk for turning down that storyline he proposed to him but other than that there has never been any other case were Steve couldve felt Hulk directly or even indirectly buried him, i think peeps overhype there beef to make Steve seem like the victim. Steve was a nobody in WCW, Hulk didnt even know he was there so why would he bury a non factor at the time? Makes no since.

Dusty Rhodes was the main person who buried Steve yet he gets no heat. Hes the one who promised Steve a big singles push them put him with Brian P, then when they got hot he broke them up which has all been confirmed by Steve. Eric B fired Steve cus when he called him to make an appearance he overheard Steve in the background telling his wife "screw them" and Eric said that along with the amount they were paying him while he was hurt and not really being marketable is why he fired Steve.

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he could basically job to rock and still be the bigger Wrestling star... there was no doubting Rock was the number 3 guy

and probably felt losing to Austin would make him look the number 2 superstar in the company of all time. so losing to rock made no difference to his overall status but who is number 1 between Austin and Hogan is debatable and one going over the other would have cemented in a lot of peoples minds.
If it were 98 or early 99 yes but by mid 99-02 Rocky was top man and fan favorite. Even once Steve returned late 2000 Vince still had Rock as face of the WWF doing all the mainstream appearances over Steve. I think some peeps cant accept that Steve had his time on top then Rock took over as the top man. By 2002 the gap between Steve and Rocky was massive given Rocks huge mainstream success.

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