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Old 01-20-2013, 09:08 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

rock vs hogan was the right choice.the rock was by far a bigger star than austin in 2002
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:25 AM   #132 (permalink)
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It should've been the biggest finale to the biggest era. My understanding is that neither would do the job. But Hogan accepts doing it against The Rock, a smaller star. When I watched that PPV, it felt wrong from the minute Austin faced Hall earlier on the card. The only thing that would've compared would've been Austin/Goldberg.
I believe in my heart that Hogan and Austin had too much ego to job to each other

however, Hogan is smart enough to see The Rock beyond wrestling

the one man since history to TRANSCEND the business

Hogan had no problem jobbing to the rock cleanly because he knew The Rock's star shone brightest

almost like.. "he's beyond me.. it's ok if i lose to him but i ain't losing to austin! you crazy?! he's not bigger than me! if im gonna lose im losing to the brightest star this company has ever seen"

btw to this day that remains one of my favorite programs and matches of all time

it was basically my Andre-Hogan

(kinda scary to think Hogan was part of the 2 biggest matches for entire generations)
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:15 AM   #133 (permalink)
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Default Re: Why did Hogan job to The Rock, but not Austin?

The Rock was on Austin's level in 2002 however Austin still was the bigger icon/legend at that point. Austin had spent more time on top and had the bigger legacy. The Rock had less than 2 yrs at the main event level (a few months in '98, ditto in '99, all of 2000 and parts of '01) while Austin had about 3 yrs as top dog ('98, '99, and '01).

I watched religiously back then and there was no way in hell that The Rock was a bigger icon than Austin then. Vast majority of the fans wanted Austin vs. Hogan. Nobody really talked about Rock vs. Hogan as their dream match. He may be equals now but not 11yrs ago.
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The Rock was on Austin's level in 2002 however Austin still was the bigger icon/legend at that point. Austin had spent more time on top and had the bigger legacy. The Rock had less than 2 yrs at the main event level (a few months in '98, ditto in '99, all of 2000 and parts of '01) while Austin had about 3 yrs as top dog ('98, '99, and '01).

I watched religiously back then and there was no way in hell that The Rock was a bigger icon than Austin then. Vast majority of the fans wanted Austin vs. Hogan. Nobody really talked about Rock vs. Hogan as their dream match. He may be equals now but not 11yrs ago.
I agree with what you said.. that even though they were unquestionably the two pillars the WWE was built on and was on the same level.. Austin was just a bit ahead of the great one

to this day, in the ring, Stone Cold Steve Austin is BIGGER, yes as big a mark of The Brahma Bull I may be and he is my favorite all-time, admittedly.. in the WWEverse.. The Rattlesnake is bigger than The Rock

here's the main difference imnho..

Stone Cold Steve Austin is the greatest wrestler of our generation.. the biggest ICON imnho..

The Rock? I don't even see a wrestler anymore.. he has truly transcended the business and when anyone sees him? They do not think "oh wrestler!" .. they see a movie star

that's the difference

Austin is still in a wrestling light..

a different light shines on Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson
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The Rock was on Austin's level in 2002 however Austin still was the bigger icon/legend at that point. Austin had spent more time on top and had the bigger legacy. The Rock had less than 2 yrs at the main event level (a few months in '98, ditto in '99, all of 2000 and parts of '01) while Austin had about 3 yrs as top dog ('98, '99, and '01).

I watched religiously back then and there was no way in hell that The Rock was a bigger icon than Austin then. Vast majority of the fans wanted Austin vs. Hogan. Nobody really talked about Rock vs. Hogan as their dream match. He may be equals now but not 11yrs ago.
How was Steve top dog in 2001? He was a heel most of the year and was never even top babyface from mid 1999 onward because Rocky took that spot. Steve himself said he turned heel at Mania x7 because he felt flat and stale while Rocky was the hottest act and the top man. Steve was only seen as undisputed man of WWF from 98-mid 99, after that it was pretty much Rock. If your judging based on booking then by that logic Hunter was top man in 2000, we all know booking is solely based on politics.
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How was Steve top dog in 2001? He was a heel most of the year and was never even top babyface from mid 1999 onward because Rocky took that spot. Steve himself said he turned heel at Mania x7 because he felt flat and stale while Rocky was the hottest act and the top man. Steve was only seen as undisputed man of WWF from 98-mid 99, after that it was pretty much Rock. If your judging based on booking then by that logic Hunter was top man in 2000, we all know booking is solely based on politics.
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Probably a similar reason to why Austin refused to job to Brock Lesnar. Or maybe Hogan just didn't respect Austin enough to do the job.
Why should he have jobbed to lesnar without a proper build up which could generate alot of hype? He got asked a few days before a show to do it
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How was Steve top dog in 2001? He was a heel most of the year and was never even top babyface from mid 1999 onward because Rocky took that spot. Steve himself said he turned heel at Mania x7 because he felt flat and stale while Rocky was the hottest act and the top man. Steve was only seen as undisputed man of WWF from 98-mid 99, after that it was pretty much Rock. If your judging based on booking then by that logic Hunter was top man in 2000, we all know booking is solely based on politics.
Rock was gone for a good bit in 2001, so you could argue that it was Austin's year.

And, in 2000, I always viewed HHH and Rock being booked as equals. Both didn't really get clean wins over each other, and each of there title reigns were about as long as each others. So I don't really know where people get that HHH was booked better.
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Why do people always bring up this bullshit argument? its very well known by anyone that Rock/Hogan was always the plan this has been said by Rock,Vince,Hogan and Austin many times and yet marks keep bringing this up and talking about how Hogan was jealous of Austin,Rock got the match cause he was the biggest star in the industry by 2 years now the fact that some marks keep arguing about this makes no sense
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Rock was gone for a good bit in 2001, so you could argue that it was Austin's year.

And, in 2000, I always viewed HHH and Rock being booked as equals. Both didn't really get clean wins over each other, and each of there title reigns were about as long as each others. So I don't really know where people get that HHH was booked better.
Austin's year my ass. People seem to underestimate Kurt Angle's work during that year. I mean, at one point he was the biggest babyface in the company, and at other point he was the biggest heel. That just shows how great he was. P.S he had alot of great matches in 2001. vs shane KOTR, vs Benoit(Cage, WM17, and Backlash), vs Rock NWO, vs Austin Summerslam,... I don't need to go any further.


As far as 2000, Rock was THE guy but HHH was booked better. If I remember correctly, both Foley and Rock were jobbing to him left and right, hell alot of thoses wins didn't even make sense.
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