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Re: REAL heels vs IWC heels

I used to cheer faces and boo all the heels when I was much younger, but now I cheer who I like, no matter what they are. And I don't care who falls under the category of a "IWC heel." I don't read dirtsheets and then choose to boo that guy based on some rumor or gossip. I don't care if that person is an asskisser or asshole offscreen either. End of the day, if they entertain me, I would probably cheer them. Hell, Rock vs. Punk is a dream match for this reason, two of my favorite wrestlers going at it. I gotta be neutral on this one cuz I like them both so much. And I don't do bandwagons, otherwise I would love Ryback, but he bores the shit outta me so I boo his sorry ass every chance I get.
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The fans should be able to cheer and boo who they want. You can't force people to like something

What if WCW won the Monday Night Wars?

Here's what I think would have happened: http://inthesquaredcircle.blogspot.c...ight-wars.html
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Just ask John Cena, the top guy who gets booed even in his hometown. LOL
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Re: REAL heels vs IWC heels

The ufc doesnt have heels (aside from chael sonnen) but somehow they are doing just fine. I understand its different with ufc being an actual sport and such but still. Heel vs face is as much a dead old time idea as playing cowboys vs indians. Johncena gets the exact reaction you want these days. Half cheering, half booing but 100% of the people in that building are shouting his name. With all the options available in daily life is outdated to believe that you can "force" everyone to love the face/hate the heel.

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The IWC like the cool heels like Punk because they're edgy and interesting... once upon a time we got faces like that but nowadays the faces are lame - hence we gravitate towards the heels. Austin is the best example, guy was a total fucking badass who in another era would have been a heel through and through - but people loved that attitude and he was the hottest babyface of all time.

Nowadays we have guys like Cena and Sheamus running around making the lamest jokes on the planet and smiling when they get beaten like it's no big thang. Austin got screwed out of titles constantly, you know what he did? He came out on Raw and raised Hell over it.

Smarkier fans are cheering these heels because they're as close as we get to that edgier attitude. Give us a kick ass face who we want to get behind and we'll boo the shit out of the heels happily.
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And retarded thinly veiled Punk sux thread strikes again.
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Re: REAL heels vs IWC heels

First reply to the thread, might as well follow up with some more profound words: as long as you're entertained - who cares?
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I think most smarks do not understand the purpose of a heel. #

A heel is supposed to get heel heat (duh). You are supposed to dislike him and want to see him get beat. And he's supposed to get the face over.

An example of a good heel is Hollywood Hogan.

Now lets look at an "IWC" heel. The IWC heel is basically a smark maturbatory fantasy. They do all the things you wish you could do in real life and get away with it.
They "tell uncomfortable truths" on the mic, when in actual fact heels are supposed to be liars and hypocrites. This can cause them to get face heat and make fans boo the guy who is supposed to be face.

An example of a terrible heel is CM Punk 2011-2012

Punk and his fanbase are the cancer that is killing wrestling. Ask youself, who has Punk actually put over since he turned heel? No one. He failed at the no1 job of being a heel. If you consider Punk a "great heel" you are a bad person.

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The OP is spot on.

A lot of IWC fans just don't get it. You hear them get upset when they see their hero's like Punk behave cowardly or cheat to win a match. That's what he's suppose to do FFS. Remember Triple H in 2000? One of the greatest heels ever in my opinion, and he was the biggest asshole on the face of the earth; abusing power, cheating to win matches, telling lies, insulting fans, he did it all. He's the perfect example of what a heel should be. But instead you get IWC fans crying out for tweener like heels, guys that tell it how it is and win matches cleanly. They serve no purpose whatsoever and only exist for IWC fans to jack off to.
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Re: REAL heels vs IWC heels

Fuck guys...just enjoy the fucking show. Stop trying to fit everything into little boxes. Let the bad guys be bad, let the good guys be good and cheer whomever you like.

I tend to lean towards heel characters myself because they're infinitely more interesting.

I am also of the opinion that WWE flubbed what could have been an amazing Punk heel run following MITB 11. Had they served the story instead of being knee-jerk reactionaries and kept Punk off of TV for an extended period (essentially doing what he's doing now claiming he 'doesn't' care about the fans) who knows how things might have turned out.


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Re: REAL heels vs IWC heels

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The OP is spot on.

A lot of IWC fans just don't get it. You hear them get upset when they see their hero's like Punk behave cowardly or cheat to win a match. That's what he's suppose to do FFS. Remember Triple H in 2000? One of the greatest heels ever in my opinion, and he was the biggest asshole on the face of the earth; abusing power, cheating to win matches, telling lies, insulting fans, he did it all. He's the perfect example of what a heel should be. But instead you get IWC fans crying out for tweener like heels, guys that tell it how it is and win matches cleanly. They serve no purpose whatsoever and only exist for IWC fans to jack off to.
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