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Freeloader 01-09-2013 03:18 PM

Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
Other than "he's a ripoff of Goldberg" because I could just as easily cite Ric Flair as an even bigger ripoff, or numerous other wrestlers, and kill that argument cold.

Seriously, what about Ryback is so logically different that he's terrible and Bill Goldberg is the fucking man? Many of you are the same people who thought Goldberg was the shit 10+ years ago, and now a guy with some similarities to him has appeared, and people are burying him and claiming he sucks. It's as if he "sucks" because a few people up here said it, and their opinions came to be your opinions, rather than you forming your own opinion.

I see Ryback in the ring, and I see a guy who is filling a very specific role - a big hulking tank like wrestler who is clearly a hevyweight, and a guy who fills the "Shit just got real" gap that WWE had since The Undertaker began working part time a few years ago. His in ring skills are not terrible. He's had a few botches, sure. Do some of you forget Bill Goldberg has more than a few botches as well? Ask Bret Hart.

Now, you can certainly make the argument that Goldberg may be a more talented in ring performer, or maybe you cannot, but I just don't see one or the other as vastly better. Goldberg was booked to the moon. He destroyed everyone, even moreso than Ryback has. He sold like shit often. His matches were short. His mic skills were decent, nothing spectacular.

How is Ryback so terrible and Goldberg so great? Do people have a view of Goldberg from their childhood that didn't really exist? What things made Goldberg that much more "epic" than Ryback? Multiple sentence answers would be preferred.

Eulonzo 01-09-2013 03:25 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
Both are decent.

Headliner 01-09-2013 03:27 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
Goldberg's intensity was through the roof. Plus he had that aura about him and his power moves looked sick. Ryback's intensity seems forced, he doesn't have that aura, and he doesn't have any sick power moves with the exception of that powerbomb he did on Punk a few months back.

Ryu Hayabusa 01-09-2013 03:27 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
They're both awful imo. But ill admit that Goldberg had presence and at the time it was rare to see someone just run through everyone like he did but obviously they're trying the exact same formula with new Superstars today not just Ryback but with guys like Tensai, Mcintyre, Sheamus, Jinder Mahal etc. and it just gets old really fast.

Coffey 01-09-2013 03:30 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
Goldberg looks like a monster, has monster-like strength doing things that should be impossible & has charisma oozing out of every inch of him. He had an unmatched aura & intensity about him.


Pratchett 01-09-2013 03:30 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
I remember back when "the Vanilla Gorilla" first showed up on Tough Enough. He's paid some dues in the developmental rings, and went through a questionable "Skip Sheffield" persona. So far I haven't seen any work from him that tells me flat out he can't portray the monster in the ring, so I think the guy deserves more from the fans. I was on board with the Goldberg chants early on when all he did was squash matches and said nothing, but since then he has faced legitimate competition and done a few credible promos.

HEELKris 01-09-2013 03:32 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
No one will be able to answer that. I laugh my ass off every time I see some dumbass posting shit like "rybuck sux goldberg rlz" with zero arguments to back up that pathetic statement.

DualShock 01-09-2013 03:49 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
Because Goldberg is



and Ryback is



But seriously now, Goldberg had this aura and intensity like already mentioned by Headliner.
The most important difference between these two is that Goldberg was so hot, they had no choice than to push him and they couldn't wait to give him the world title on a PPV and booked it on Nitro with only a 3 days announcement. Ryback on the other side was just forced into the main event.

George Costanza 01-09-2013 03:54 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Walk-In (Post 12476519)
Goldberg looks like a monster, has monster-like strength doing things that should be impossible & has charisma oozing out of every inch of him. He had an unmatched aura & intensity about him.


Pretty much everything here.

I'd add that not only did Goldberg have the monster-like strength, he was a fucking athlete. His moves LOOKED quick and devastating. Ryback is very, very methodical, plodding around the ring from impact move to impact move.

Look at that video, Goldberg's punches to the Giant. Dude had quickness and strength, just a freakish combination.

Cookie Monster 01-09-2013 03:55 PM

Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Walk-In (Post 12476519)
Goldberg looks like a monster, has monster-like strength doing things that should be impossible & has charisma oozing out of every inch of him. He had an unmatched aura & intensity about him.


Damn, after all these years it still gives me goosebumps when he hits Show with the Spear!


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