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Old 01-11-2013, 11:28 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Default Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

Goldberg is the original and Ryback is just a ripoff.
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:40 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Completely agree. As big as Austin eventually became and one could definitely argue that he may be the GOAT, it's possible to argue that in 1998 at the height of the Monday Night Wars that Goldberg was THE biggest star in wrestling. WCW still had the far deeper roster at the time (Hogan, Sting, Flair, Nash, Hall, Horsemen, Hennig, Jericho, Mysterio, Ultimo Dragon, Guerrero, I could go on and on) and Goldberg was at the top of the cream of the crop.

To say that Goldberg was never at Austin or Rock's level is ridiculous. It's actually the Rock that joined that level last and he didn't get there until late 1999 at the earliest while people were talking about the Austin vs. Goldberg dream match for a year already.
I Like Goldberg too much
but u can't put Austin and Goldberg in one Comparison
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Old 01-11-2013, 11:40 AM   #103 (permalink)
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Ryback doesn't have the look, is slow, barely can move.

Feed me more = LAMEST thing ever.

Lame gear.

Fake lame monster wannabe.

One Goldberg entrance = greater than Ryback's entire career.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:33 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Default Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

I swear, if Ryback came into wcw as Bill Goldberg and got the same push and everything else that went down he'd leave his mark the exact same way Goldberg did. Fans back then just loved to see a big guy dominate. You cant fucking tell me it wouldnt work the same when all the fans go fucking BALISTIC APE SHIT and all Goldberg did was a kick. A KICK. Ryback has a natural presence to him. Its todays era and todays fans that make it hard for what he is to WORK. Fans will NEVER EVER go fucking ape shit over little things today because its a different time, different era, with different fans and some of the same fans from back then that have their little nostalgia goggles on. if Ryback the person was Bill Goldberg back then, and Bill Goldberg was Ryback today he'd generate the same exact thoughts Ryback gets today.

Try, just try thinking about Greenberg coming in today with Rybacks push. Would it work with fans going ape shit for him?

Back then all this guy who was even greener than Ryback actually is had to do was do a couple of moves, and power moves and scream at the camera because fans were just either Rowdy, or Rowdy and drunk with their buddies at events. Wrestling in his time was like a group of people bringing their buddies to a football game to get drunk and scream. Its just super toned down today and more like live theatre than ever.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:39 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Ryback is a cheap copy but not nearly as talented, his finish is just to stupid for me not anywhere near the spear and jackhammer
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:38 PM   #106 (permalink)
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No, I son't need to clarify a single theme. One of the BIGGEST stars ever, any industry. Bill was on the cover of TV guides in the late 90's, and was every bit the star that Steve Austin was. History has been rewritten by WWE and SHEEP buy into it, but I was around at the time. I was around when all the kids were walking around with Goldberg backpacks in school, and tons of home-made net sites were devoted to Goldberg. There is a good reason Goldberg was paid stupid money by Japan to get his services when he was a free agent also.

You take 99 Goldberg and compare him to 99 Rock or Austin, and they are all on the same level. All sellign the same ammount of merch and tickets. Rock and Austin were WWE born so of course they get all the hype, all the opening video exposure, top mmoment exposure etc. But I'm not a sheep. I know how wrestling was and I know how fucking huge Goldberg was.
Spot on.

If Goldberg was in the WWE's good graces (i.e. HE agreed to their offers instead of wanting nothing to do with them) he would be seen in all of the intros, be in all of the Top 10 lists and shoved down our throats just like the likes of Austin, Rock etc. I mean, when he debuted on Raw, that was legendary. An amazing must see moment everybody talked about to death at the time and one of the most significant moments... yet it wasn't shown at all on Raw 1000.

People who don't see him on the same level as Austin or Rock have been brainwashed, or simply don't know what they are talking about. The second Bill agrees to a figure deal, or a DVD deal etc and they start promoting his legacy again, suddenly all of these sort of people will go, "Ah Goldberg, yeah he was da man."
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:48 PM   #107 (permalink)
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The spear is alone is better than any other move Ryback has. Comparing the two is like comparing the ultimate warrior to the Renegade (not in terms of wrestling skills but on popularity and impact)

If Ryback was in wcw getting that push he would be a Wrath. Simply cuz his moves just arent as cool
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:59 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Ryback doesn't have the look, is slow, barely can move.

Feed me more = LAMEST thing ever.

Lame gear.

Fake lame monster wannabe.

One Goldberg entrance = greater than Ryback's entire career.
I agree

Ryberg is a cheap ripoff

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The spear is alone is better than any other move Ryback has. Comparing the two is like comparing the ultimate warrior to the Renegade (not in terms of wrestling skills but on popularity and impact)
If Ryback was in wcw getting that push he would be a Wrath. Simply cuz his moves just arent as cool
I agree
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:29 PM   #109 (permalink)
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I swear, if Ryback came into wcw as Bill Goldberg and got the same push and everything else that went down he'd leave his mark the exact same way Goldberg did. Fans back then just loved to see a big guy dominate. You cant fucking tell me it wouldnt work the same when all the fans go fucking BALISTIC APE SHIT and all Goldberg did was a kick. A KICK. Ryback has a natural presence to him. Its todays era and todays fans that make it hard for what he is to WORK. Fans will NEVER EVER go fucking ape shit over little things today because its a different time, different era, with different fans and some of the same fans from back then that have their little nostalgia goggles on. if Ryback the person was Bill Goldberg back then, and Bill Goldberg was Ryback today he'd generate the same exact thoughts Ryback gets today.

Try, just try thinking about Greenberg coming in today with Rybacks push. Would it work with fans going ape shit for him?

Back then all this guy who was even greener than Ryback actually is had to do was do a couple of moves, and power moves and scream at the camera because fans were just either Rowdy, or Rowdy and drunk with their buddies at events. Wrestling in his time was like a group of people bringing their buddies to a football game to get drunk and scream. Its just super toned down today and more like live theatre than ever.
You haven't got a fucking clue. I refuse to justify your ridiculous post with more of a response than that.
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Old 01-11-2013, 03:36 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Default Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

Ok it looks like Ric Flair is a cheap ripoff then. Wow
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