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post #91 of 157 (permalink) Old 01-11-2013, 10:01 AM
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Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

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You might want to clarify and say biggest star in WCW, and it is still debatable. But he doesn't hold a candle to Austin or the Rock for that matter.
Erm, wrong. Goldberg at his peak in '98 was as big as anyone has ever been in professional wrestling, and only those who are either highly uneducated or simply against Goldberg would argue against that.
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You might want to clarify and say biggest star in WCW, and it is still debatable. But he doesn't hold a candle to Austin or the Rock for that matter.
No, I son't need to clarify a single theme. One of the BIGGEST stars ever, any industry. Bill was on the cover of TV guides in the late 90's, and was every bit the star that Steve Austin was. History has been rewritten by WWE and SHEEP buy into it, but I was around at the time. I was around when all the kids were walking around with Goldberg backpacks in school, and tons of home-made net sites were devoted to Goldberg. There is a good reason Goldberg was paid stupid money by Japan to get his services when he was a free agent also.

You take 99 Goldberg and compare him to 99 Rock or Austin, and they are all on the same level. All sellign the same ammount of merch and tickets. Rock and Austin were WWE born so of course they get all the hype, all the opening video exposure, top mmoment exposure etc. But I'm not a sheep. I know how wrestling was and I know how fucking huge Goldberg was.
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No, I son't need to clarify a single theme. One of the BIGGEST stars ever, any industry. Bill was on the cover of TV guides in the late 90's, and was every bit the star that Steve Austin was. History has been rewritten by WWE and SHEEP buy into it, but I was around at the time. I was around when all the kids were walking around with Goldberg backpacks in school, and tons of home-made net sites were devoted to Goldberg. There is a good reason Goldberg was paid stupid money by Japan to get his services when he was a free agent also.

You take 99 Goldberg and compare him to 99 Rock or Austin, and they are all on the same level. All sellign the same ammount of merch and tickets. Rock and Austin were WWE born so of course they get all the hype, all the opening video exposure, top mmoment exposure etc. But I'm not a sheep. I know how wrestling was and I know how fucking huge Goldberg was.
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Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

Ryback is WWE's attempt to remake a Goldberg. And Ryback's decent, but the intensity and atmosphere Goldberg created can't be manufactured by the current WWE factory, no matter how hard it tries.

Ain't no beating this.
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Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

He was never bigger than Austin, but Goldberg was still a close second in 1998. Guy was pretty huge and he actually led the ratings boom in WCW. The numbers were higher with Goldberg than they ever were in the NWO's peak.
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Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

The simple answer here is Nostalgia...

People always remember things from the past with a level of reverence that simple did not exists. Further Goldberg was during the Attitude era of wrestling when generally people did not just watch wrestling...they LIVED pro wrestling. So people used to be so into the show by the time Goldberg came to the ring that he could have done the finger poke of doom and got a huge pop

Ryback also has been pushed into the title picture too fast...if you remember Goldberg was US champion for a VERY long time...past his first 100 matches

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Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

Because Goldberg was larger than life it seemed. Ryback is just a cheap knock off according to a lot of people.

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Goldberg was 31 when he was where Ryback is right now. Ryback is also 31. Where's the difference?
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You might want to clarify and say biggest star in WCW, and it is still debatable. But he doesn't hold a candle to Austin or the Rock for that matter.
During 1998 Goldberg was neck and neck with Austin as the most popular wrestler in the business.
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Re: Explain how Goldberg is still awesome and Ryback sucks?

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No, I son't need to clarify a single theme. One of the BIGGEST stars ever, any industry. Bill was on the cover of TV guides in the late 90's, and was every bit the star that Steve Austin was. History has been rewritten by WWE and SHEEP buy into it, but I was around at the time. I was around when all the kids were walking around with Goldberg backpacks in school, and tons of home-made net sites were devoted to Goldberg. There is a good reason Goldberg was paid stupid money by Japan to get his services when he was a free agent also.

You take 99 Goldberg and compare him to 99 Rock or Austin, and they are all on the same level. All sellign the same ammount of merch and tickets. Rock and Austin were WWE born so of course they get all the hype, all the opening video exposure, top mmoment exposure etc. But I'm not a sheep. I know how wrestling was and I know how fucking huge Goldberg was.
Completely agree. As big as Austin eventually became and one could definitely argue that he may be the GOAT, it's possible to argue that in 1998 at the height of the Monday Night Wars that Goldberg was THE biggest star in wrestling. WCW still had the far deeper roster at the time (Hogan, Sting, Flair, Nash, Hall, Horsemen, Hennig, Jericho, Mysterio, Ultimo Dragon, Guerrero, I could go on and on) and Goldberg was at the top of the cream of the crop.

To say that Goldberg was never at Austin or Rock's level is ridiculous. It's actually the Rock that joined that level last and he didn't get there until late 1999 at the earliest while people were talking about the Austin vs. Goldberg dream match for a year already.

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