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Old 01-04-2013, 03:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Why can't bigger names win other titles?

I know a title like IC/US have just been seen as a title for the mid card division, but why can't WWE have the bigger name stars also going for those titles?

They want to improve the division, but don't want to have guys in the division that'll improve it. It makes no sense(that'd be like wanting to buy something,but not wanting to spend money to buy it).

I know some people might say something like "if ___ is in the __ title scene, it means less mid card guys will be in title picture", but really, don't people think that WWE is at a point, where they should at least experiment with this?

I'm sure more people would care about something like Orton vs Cesaro in a US title feud, over Cesaro-Khali or something like that. Individual superstars aren't the ones who make people watch, it's the overall show.

Just like in sports. People don't tune in to see a single team(assuming they're not fans of the team), just cause that team has 1-2 good players on it, they'd tune into cause that team has good overall players.

I'd rather see a PPV where we'd have 4-5 matches with top(or close to top) stars in it, over 2-3 just loaded with all the stars in them.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Its not smart business. Think about it. Suppose Khali was the world champion and Punk/Rock were feuding for the IC title?
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Only thing I can see is WWE doesn't care about the secondary titles. After months feuding for the WWE or WHC, guys like Del Rio, Bryan and now even Sheamus, should have went to feuding for the IC or US Title because as it stands right now, it's only 4 people surrounding those titles and nobody really cares about Kofi or R-Truth.

They did right by having Miz as IC Champion but it needs to happen more often, so make those titles seem valuable. I remember Flair winning the IC Title in his final run, HHH winning it about a year after his dominant reign as WWE Champion. Now, they expect guys like Santino and Kofi to make the belt seem valuable.
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Old 01-04-2013, 03:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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They have to lose them eventually and the brass don't want a stud like Cena losing to a scrub like Barrett.
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They have to lose them eventually and the brass don't want a stud like Cena losing to a scrub like Barrett.
Funny because they didn't mind having Cena lose to Barrett at HIAC 2010.


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Its not smart business. Think about it. Suppose Khali was the world champion and Punk/Rock were feuding for the IC title?
You know what's not smart business? Having a guy like Daniel Bryan lose the WHC in 18 seconds, lose a rematch 3 weeks later but enter the WWE Title picture for the next 3 months.

Or having a guy like Alberto Del Rio feud for the WWE/WHC for nearly 2 years and he's only been here for like 30 months. He's never won a secondary title but since April of 2011, he's alternated between challenging for the WWE Title and WHC.

Same thing with Sheamus. So what would it hurt by, instead of giving these guys constant rematches for the top titles, put them in a program for the secondary title? And it's not smart business having the same title matches for 3-4 months. Nobody expects Rock to feud for the IC Title but there is no reason why a guy like Del Rio has yet to compete for a secondary title.
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They've done it a few times.

Flair, HHH, Jericho, JBL, Miz, Christian all had runs with the IC or US belt after they were World Champs. I always though Hogan should have got a US or IC title run during the end of his WWF Career and maybe one last feud with Flair over a strap.
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As little push as Orton's had lately, when he makes his comeback to the WHC/WWE title, he should start with the IC title and move upwards. It would elevate the IC title and give him credibility again. As long as he doesn't feud with Cesaro for the US title and squash Cesaro. I don't mind if he squashes Kofi or Barrett or whoever has the IC title at that time.
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The purpose of the midcard titles is to elevate non stars into stars. If you're a 3 or 4 time world champion, you're made already, it serves absolutely no purpose. Besides, it's stupid. Why would anyone want a lesser title when they know full well they can win the big one?
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Its not smart business. Think about it. Suppose Khali was the world champion and Punk/Rock were feuding for the IC title?
This makes no sense. Why would Khali be the World Champ.

Imagine Cena as World Champ and Punk and Rock feuding over the IC or US Title. The Rock could say how he's fond of the IC Title since it was his first Championship or how he wants the US title because its the only title he hasnt won yet and he wants to make sure Punk isn't called a Champion.

Punks quest could be to have the IC title surpass the WOrld Title.

Cutting a great Promo about Wrestlemania 3 and how Sports Entertainment Fans watched Hogan beat ANdre with the WWF Championship on the line. Wrestling fans were in awe when Steamboat and Savage stole the show over the IC belt.

Then he can rattle off Wrestlers who held the IC belt like Perfect, Hart, HBK, ANgle, Benoit, Owen, Regal, Eddie, Edge, Jericho all held the IC title...

While the World Title was around the waist of Sports Entertainment bums and lumbering idiots like Hogan, Nash, Sid, Rocky, Yokozuna who were all protected by the WWE brass.

He could then point to himself and Cesaro vs. the counter parts Cena and Big SHow.
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The purpose of the midcard titles is to elevate non stars into stars. If you're a 3 or 4 time world champion, you're made already, it serves absolutely no purpose. Besides, it's stupid. Why would anyone want a lesser title when they know full well they can win the big one?
It makes perfect sense (imho) in that an up and coming mid-carder can win the title from an established main eventer. Thus giving an up and comer a possible main event push. Randy Orton would be perfect to do that job right now. He hasn't been pushed but is still over with the fans. An IC win over him would bring instant credibility to amyone who beats him for the IC championship.
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