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This would set up the Ambrose/Sandow saga. The eloquent yet ruthless megalomaic against the loose canon outcast. During this time, the HHH/Ambrose/Shield saga would still be developing, you could even put the WWE title on Sandow and officially allign him with HHH as his modern-day corporate champion. You could add a few more Shield members to serve as enforcers to HHH and Sandow. The feud could go in the direction of Ambrose overcoming the odds and finally getting a shot at Ambrose for the title which would culminate at a big PPV.

This would cement both Ambrose as a monster babyface, and Sandow as a monster heel. It would be completely fresh for the main event scene, and it'd be a fantastic way to put the stamp on a brand new era. Of course, there's many ways you could go about doing this, it could involve a multitude of guy, but this is just one unique perspective.

Brilliant. A solid mid-card feud and it should be based on something really personal.

A HHH/Sandow faction would be brilliant. But all these should be executed perfectly and not like the Cena/Edge feud when Cena got his win back after 3 weeks. These guys should have confrontations and interviews, maybe involved with a diva.

Take a look at this match. Executed perfectly. Ambrose is set as the same level as the title while Sandow, the almighty great holds on to it.



Sandow has a gimmick in the WWE right that can be taken seriously. He already has a strong fan following. Take a look at his entrances in the past RAWs/PPVs. He gets a standing ovation and gets heat from actually insulting the culture and beliefs of the fans(Brooklyn Hipster). Maybe he can go on with an Atheist gimmick. There are so so so many god believers in the audience today and they would basically hate anyone that says "GOD ISN'T REAL. PLEASE DEAL WITH IT". Kids would cry, Parents would get angry and Sandow can get legit heat from the crowd. Like when he slowly eased into the whole god thing, the audience and views would go like:


These guys should be on Smackdown, building their feud and make the show watchable. But the feud should ONLY go on in Smackdown. I wish that we could have Brand Extensions or whatever they're called. Now mostly the feuds can go on RAW and Smackdown is fillers and recaps.
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Admittedly I didn't read the whole thing, but from what I did read it looks good. However WWE doesn't really think that much into things and most likely just view The Shield as just another stable to get some more faces on the main roster and hope to get them over. There is no mind, body and soul as far as WWE is concerned.
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OP for the head of "creative" team.
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One thing I would like to first talk about is that as soon as the Shield arrived and because of many posters already knowing who they were, instantly talk moved to how they will break up. I liked the OP 's post but once again it moved into fantasy booking about how the Shield will break up. I guess there is a reason for this, and that is WWE creative and Vince really don't know where things go and they fast track things or play them out until they seemingly just get written off tv.

I for one really want to see where the Shield's story is heading. What is their true goal in terms of the injustice they are trying to right. They are taking out the "popular" wrestlers so that the true in ring talents can get the spotlight?? I know all it is, is these heels attacking faces, which leads into a match like the one we saw at TLC. Vince no doubt has nothing really planned much like the Nexus' bigger picture or the anon GM or Vince screwing with the Undertaker time after time.

What will be the future for the Shield is anyone's guess, but I'm hoping that their unique entrance through the crowd act( much like Edge's earlier work) sticks for a long time and these three men continue to be a unit for a long time doing what they do. Continuing to reveal more of their characters and providing some great live promos on Raw.

We all just hope they don't go the way of the angles I mentioned and when Vince is tired of his version of "Monster of the Week" he just jobs them to Cena or Sheamus and they are disbanded like Nexus and The Corre to really go no where. Of course these three gentlemen are more talented than many of those wrestlers, however a great break up story is hopefully what hey will receive instead of just fade away, which is I guess what the OP was getting at.

In any case, hopefully the Shield as a unit is main stay act in the WWE for a long time
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Brilliant. A solid mid-card feud and it should be based on something really personal.

A HHH/Sandow faction would be brilliant. But all these should be executed perfectly and not like the Cena/Edge feud when Cena got his win back after 3 weeks. These guys should have confrontations and interviews, maybe involved with a diva.

Take a look at this match. Executed perfectly. Ambrose is set as the same level as the title while Sandow, the almighty great holds on to it.



Sandow has a gimmick in the WWE right that can be taken seriously. He already has a strong fan following. Take a look at his entrances in the past RAWs/PPVs. He gets a standing ovation and gets heat from actually insulting the culture and beliefs of the fans(Brooklyn Hipster). Maybe he can go on with an Atheist gimmick. There are so so so many god believers in the audience today and they would basically hate anyone that says "GOD ISN'T REAL. PLEASE DEAL WITH IT". Kids would cry, Parents would get angry and Sandow can get legit heat from the crowd. Like when he slowly eased into the whole god thing, the audience and views would go like:


These guys should be on Smackdown, building their feud and make the show watchable. But the feud should ONLY go on in Smackdown. I wish that we could have Brand Extensions or whatever they're called. Now mostly the feuds can go on RAW and Smackdown is fillers and recaps.
On a personal note, I could listen to Sandow cut 3 hour long promos every Monday for the rest of my life and probably wouldn't ever get sick of it, but even the biggest Sandow fan has to admit that he's eventually going to stagnate if he sticks with the current borderline corny character incarnation he has now. If you look at him, he's no different from Lanny Poffo's Genius character, and Sandow would've fit right into the cartoony era of the 90s. The reason he has a huge following right now is because he's so ridiculously good in his role, and speaks alot of sense while offsetting it with his condescending demeanor. The truth is, Sandow has all the tools to be the coming era's biggest heel, but he needs to evolve his character.

By "evolving" doesn't neccessarily mean that he has to stave away from everything that makes Damien Sandow what he is. His core personality could remain somewhat intact, but he could benefit from an appearance rehaul, a newfound aggressiveness, and associating himself with the right people to help him reach that next level of greatness. Just imagine Sandow playing a similar roll to what Shane Douglas did in ECW, or HHH did in the WWE as a heel only putting his own unique twist to make it distinctive enough to avoid comparisons. Hell, give him a nickname to the effect of "The Benchmark" Damien Sandow, coming out with the slick black hair and trimmed beard, a new finisher, a new theme song, a more defined physique and a brand new attire fitting of his new attitude. During his promos, he would still be the same grandiloquent, and condescending prick he always was, only this time he's thinking about himself, and is focuced and obsessed with being the top guy. As Damien Sandow "the intellectual Savior", it's highly unlikely that he'll ever get passed the upper midcard level no matter how good he is as a talent, and would eventually become a parody of himself. Just look at Hunter Hearst Helmsley, great heel, but needed to evolve in order to fit the times.

I kinda like the Atheist gimmick, the problem with this is that you can only go so far with something like that, and alot of people now days are sacreligious, and skeptical of the God belief. I can see him doing something like this, but he shouldn't make it a focal point because it'll only go as far as D-Bryan's Vegan schtick.

I really feel like Sandow will become a fantastic heel one day, and a prominent player for the WWE. I also think that Ambrose will be something special as well both as a heel and an anti-hero, and what better person to compliment his character than a polar opposite like the well dressed, well mannered, eloquently speaking and condescending prick like Sandow. Both guys could draw big money together, it's just up to the WWE to see that and get creative at work in putting these two in consistant situations and positions to reach that level.
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One thing I would like to first talk about is that as soon as the Shield arrived and because of many posters already knowing who they were, instantly talk moved to how they will break up. I liked the OP 's post but once again it moved into fantasy booking about how the Shield will break up. I guess there is a reason for this, and that is WWE creative and Vince really don't know where things go and they fast track things or play them out until they seemingly just get written off tv.

I for one really want to see where the Shield's story is heading. What is their true goal in terms of the injustice they are trying to right. They are taking out the "popular" wrestlers so that the true in ring talents can get the spotlight?? I know all it is, is these heels attacking faces, which leads into a match like the one we saw at TLC. Vince no doubt has nothing really planned much like the Nexus' bigger picture or the anon GM or Vince screwing with the Undertaker time after time.

What will be the future for the Shield is anyone's guess, but I'm hoping that their unique entrance through the crowd act( much like Edge's earlier work) sticks for a long time and these three men continue to be a unit for a long time doing what they do. Continuing to reveal more of their characters and providing some great live promos on Raw.

We all just hope they don't go the way of the angles I mentioned and when Vince is tired of his version of "Monster of the Week" he just jobs them to Cena or Sheamus and they are disbanded like Nexus and The Corre to really go no where. Of course these three gentlemen are more talented than many of those wrestlers, however a great break up story is hopefully what hey will receive instead of just fade away, which is I guess what the OP was getting at.

In any case, hopefully the Shield as a unit is main stay act in the WWE for a long time
Definitely to all of this. I hope they stay together for most of 2013, if possible. I'd like to see their "break-up" somehow work its way into NEXT YEAR's WrestleMania, meaning they'd have to last as a unit for most/all of 2013; perhaps slowly achieving greater success and we eventually find out who is behind it all, if anyone.

Nice Stan Hansen reference, btw.
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This would set up the Ambrose/Sandow saga. The eloquent yet ruthless megalomaic against the loose canon outcast. During this time, the HHH/Ambrose/Shield saga would still be developing, you could even put the WWE title on Sandow and officially allign him with HHH as his modern-day corporate champion. You could add a few more Shield members to serve as enforcers to HHH and Sandow. The feud could go in the direction of Ambrose overcoming the odds and finally getting a shot at Ambrose for the title which would culminate at a big PPV.

This would cement both Ambrose as a monster babyface, and Sandow as a monster heel. It would be completely fresh for the main event scene, and it'd be a fantastic way to put the stamp on a brand new era. Of course, there's many ways you could go about doing this, it could involve a multitude of guy, but this is just one unique perspective.
This would be pretty awesome right here, by the way. It's an intriguing angle, and a good way to get Ambrose over as a tweener and also Sandow over as HHH's protege. I enjoyed it.

There are other posts I plan on replying to when I have time later tonight. Thanks for the all input, everyone.
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On a personal note, I could listen to Sandow cut 3 hour long promos every Monday for the rest of my life and probably wouldn't ever get sick of it, but even the biggest Sandow fan has to admit that he's eventually going to stagnate if he sticks with the current borderline corny character incarnation he has now. If you look at him, he's no different from Lanny Poffo's Genius character, and Sandow would've fit right into the cartoony era of the 90s. The reason he has a huge following right now is because he's so ridiculously good in his role, and speaks alot of sense while offsetting it with his condescending demeanor. The truth is, Sandow has all the tools to be the coming era's biggest heel, but he needs to evolve his character.

By "evolving" doesn't neccessarily mean that he has to stave away from everything that makes Damien Sandow what he is. His core personality could remain somewhat intact, but he could benefit from an appearance rehaul, a newfound aggressiveness, and associating himself with the right people to help him reach that next level of greatness. Just imagine Sandow playing a similar roll to what Shane Douglas did in ECW, or HHH did in the WWE as a heel only putting his own unique twist to make it distinctive enough to avoid comparisons. Hell, give him a nickname to the effect of "The Benchmark" Damien Sandow, coming out with the slick black hair and trimmed beard, a new finisher, a new theme song, a more defined physique and a brand new attire fitting of his new attitude. During his promos, he would still be the same grandiloquent, and condescending prick he always was, only this time he's thinking about himself, and is focuced and obsessed with being the top guy. As Damien Sandow "the intellectual Savior", it's highly unlikely that he'll ever get passed the upper midcard level no matter how good he is as a talent, and would eventually become a parody of himself. Just look at Hunter Hearst Helmsley, great heel, but needed to evolve in order to fit the times.

I kinda like the Atheist gimmick, the problem with this is that you can only go so far with something like that, and alot of people now days are sacreligious, and skeptical of the God belief. I can see him doing something like this, but he shouldn't make it a focal point because it'll only go as far as D-Bryan's Vegan schtick.

I really feel like Sandow will become a fantastic heel one day, and a prominent player for the WWE. I also think that Ambrose will be something special as well both as a heel and an anti-hero, and what better person to compliment his character than a polar opposite like the well dressed, well mannered, eloquently speaking and condescending prick like Sandow. Both guys could draw big money together, it's just up to the WWE to see that and get creative at work in putting these two in consistant situations and positions to reach that level.

A suit wearing money loving intellectual savin' Damien Sandow would be gold but somehow while I'm thinking this I have a picture of HHH in my head. Sandow can be the next HHH, he just needs to take the elements on Hunter's personality and emotion and combine them into one unforgettable feud.

I think he can get Kassius Ohno and HHH by his side, something like the Evolution but I don't think WWE can maintain a good stable like Evolution again.
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He certainly shouldn't take too much of HHH's character to the point where it's obvious, but it never hurts to take things that worked in the past and incorporate them with your own traits to make it fresh. Hulk Hogan took from Billy Graham, Ric Flair took from Buddy Rogers, look how that turned out.
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