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Re: WWE Holds Focus Group On Their Divas Division - Major Changes

Focus groups for this kind of thing are pointless. People won't admit what they really want -- they'll say what they think they are supposed to say.

Few people want to see women wrestle. But they know the PC-fascists will call them sexist if they say that. Most people will just say what the PC-fascists want them to say ... and then ignore women's wrestling.

It's all a silly game. If you want to figure out what people want. Don't listen to what they say. Watch what they do. How they spend their money. How they spend their time. People will say women's basketball is great -- but practically nobody goes to see a WNBA game. Because they are lying to avoid having some PC idiot call them sexist.
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Re: WWE Holds Focus Group On Their Divas Division - Major Changes

More of this:



And I wont go to the bathroom when they have a divas match anymore, still will be doing something with my pants though, more exactly, whats in them.
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WWE is a mainstream business. You could put all the fans of shimmer, shine, eve, etc together and it's a rounding error. WWE is looking for things that attract millions of viewers, not thousands.

It's the same for hard-core wrestling. WWE doesn't care if those fans follow WWE since there are so few of them. WWE is a mainstream business. Tiny, niche fanbases don't interest them. And shouldn't. It would be financially irresponsible to pursue such an insane business strategy.

Is the NFL sexist for having big strong dudes compete while hot chicks in skimpy outfits cheerlead from the sidelines? Cause that's the single most popular show on TV. Popular to the tune of $10B+ a year.
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Re: WWE Holds Focus Group On Their Divas Division - Major Changes

Focus groups often give iffy results. Without knowing the makeup of the panel (which may be mentioned somewhere in this thread, but I didn't read it all, so whatever) I have no opinion one way or the other about the likelihood of this one being worth much.

Anyway, I wouldn't mind them hiring pretty and/or interesting girls in non-wrestling roles. That's fine. In fact, it's a good idea. But while they're at it, I'd like them to bring in others for their in-ring skills. Let the real female wrestlers do the wrestling and let the real models/actresses/cute athletic girls do what they have the skill set for. Best of both worlds and everyone's happy, including the female talent.

There's nothing wrong with women in...how to put this...supporting entertainment roles? I can only speak for myself, but I've played in both the athlete and the cheerleader role (and, BTW, cheerleading is actually sport with competitions and all the rest, not just dancing chicks on the sidelines). Both are fun to do and fun to watch and no, jumping around in a short skirt entertaining guys never left me feeling like a sexualized object. Also, running in the typical, lightweight and minimal warm-weather athletics gear doesn't give anyone the right to think of me as anything but an athlete.

At the same time, womens sport is not inherently inferior. There are some competitions where the ladies division is the more interesting and closely contested. Obviously this isn't the case in every sport, or even the majority, but a blanket dismissal of all of it isn't fair. Eh, some people do find women in sports not too dull. CBC Sports viewers voted Christine Sinclair the captain of the Womens Olympic soccer team Canadian athlete of the year. Just saying.
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Re: WWE Holds Focus Group On Their Divas Division - Major Changes

I always enjoy coming in these types of threads to see someone make anything wrestling related compared to something that has 0 relation with wrestling whatsoever like Football cheerleaders to female wrestlers. Not disappointed.

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I dunno. If the WWE is hard up for attractive women who are also top-flight athletes, competitive cheerleaders may be where they want to look for recruiting.



Since we all know they're not going to hire a slew of angry Japanese ladies and less-girlish indie darlings.
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It's not that hard. Bring in some girls who can work and write some decent storylines for them. Fucking rocket science.

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Re: WWE Holds Focus Group On Their Divas Division - Major Changes

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It's not that hard. Bring in some girls who can work and write some decent storylines for them. Fucking rocket science.
But that would require logical thinking, something WWE seems to be incapable of

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Re: WWE Holds Focus Group On Their Divas Division - Major Changes

WWE needs to decide how they want to present the divas. If they want models who are good for PR (magazine shoots etc) but have no wrestling background they should be used as valets and other non wrestling roles (they could also have gimmick matches if WWE wasn't pg). If however, they want a proper competitive womens wrestling division they should hire women who are trained wrestlers and are passionate about it. They may not always look like models or be good at photoshoots but they'll be able to put on a decent match.

At the moment whenever I see a divas match (which is rare since usually I take a bathroom break) it just looks...fake.

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Re: WWE Holds Focus Group On Their Divas Division - Major Changes

Also, whichever road agent told the likes of Gail Kim to hold back so they don't make the midcard men look bad for not wrestling up to the standards of the top players in the women's division should be future endeavored, with all haste.
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