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Old 12-02-2012, 11:40 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Ah, about time for the monthly disgruntled WWE employee twitter affair.
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:42 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Come on guys are you really gonna believe him
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Old 12-02-2012, 11:43 PM   #83 (permalink)
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This isn't a big deal. Only a few guys get a big push each year. Cena, as the face of the company, had some say in who got pushed and who didn't. All that means is over the years he earned the respect of management (aka Vince) and his opinions were, to a degree, listened to.

This is no different than any of the other top stars in the history of professional wrestling.
Obviously the people that Cena had negative opinions about are gonna be angry.

Cena doesn't have the power to push or bury anybody by himself. He can suggest things. And his suggestions carry more weight than, say, Tyler Reks.

Earlier this year it appeared that Cena tried to get behind Zack Ryder. And management agreed and gave Ryder a mild push with some prominent angles. And then WWE decided it wasn't working and Ryder went back to being a jobber.

This just isn't a big deal. Not everybody can get a major push.

Cena isn't a writer. He isn't part of the management that approves the writing. He's a guy who's opinions about the business carry some weight within WWE because he's the face of the company and the most successful pro wrestler in the past decade. In the past 10 years, no one has main evented more PPVs, or more Raws, or sold more tickets, or more merchandise than Cena. It's understandable that his opinions would carry some weight. Doesn't mean he's right, of course.

Every year a few guys get pushed. And most of the roster doesn't. That's just life. I'm sure it sucks to be on the roster and never get the push you think you deserve.
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Ah yes I remember that now. I always thought that happened because he got caught up in the moment. I know top guys take some liberties at times but Rock doesn't seem like he would do that on purpose. Of course not checking up on the guy is a dick move but hey.


Foley is a tough bastard, unless you had an ACME anvil to drop on him he was gonna live. I think it may have been on of those he was running on fumes and kept getting up. Rock is one of a few guys you don't really hear any negative stories about so I think it was either a miscommunication or one of those heat of the moment situations.
Yeah, I agree. I've never bought into it as an act of unprofessionalism. And no doubt, Foley is a tough bastard but in that situation, I think he bit off a bit more than he could chew. Although, a big problem of his was also that Rock didn't care enough to check up on him. I remember him saying he wondered whether it's even worth going to such lengths if a guy is going to be so ungrateful or something along those lines.
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This sounds like Rekks is being bitter. And Cena is a leader backstage i'm sure if Taker said the same thing there would be different reactions on here. Cena was just asking some genuine questions and gave him a genuine warning.
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Were those talents really worth anything in the grand scheme of things?

Do you hate Cena that much that you've got your blinders on to situation?

Chavo Guerrero: A charity case his entire career.
Kenny Dykstra: Mid-carder talent at best.
Tyler Reks: Jobber to the mid-carders.
Michael Traver: See Reks.

Get off your high horse here and snap into reality. None of these guys would of amounted to squat the only reason you give a damn is because Cena's name was mentioned in the twits.

You want to know who the WWE dropped the ball on? Here is a list:

Carlito
Dudley Boys (singles)
John Morrison
Mark Jindrak
Matt Morgan
Nick Dimsmore
WGTT (singles)
Umaga (God rest his soul)

Those are the type of talents that you should be bitching about getting fucked by the WWE system and not the ones who've taken to twitter to pissed and moaned about pushes they never should of received in the first place.

Carlito - Garnered a reputation for being lazy and unmotivated. Seemed to be happy with remaining a midcarder for life instead of getting the push to the top that many thought he would have.

Dudley Boys - True, they have done fine as singles competitors in TNA [Especially Bubba]. However, they had always been tag teamers and, often times, many tag teamers that go single fail miserably so nothing new.

John Morrison - Achieved about all he was worth. Had little charisma and almost no mic skill abilities. Hardly dropped the bill.

Mark Jindrak - Can't remember him enough now to care or recall his potential.

Matt Morgan - In-Ring skills were not that great and his mic skills/charisma were also lacking.

Nick Dinsmore - True, he was definitely wasted.

WGTT - Both lacked charisma to be main eventers although they could have stayed as midcard talent and prospered.

Umaga - Come now, the reason he was depushed and eventually released in the first place is because he had a major drug dependence and refused to go to rehab. Hardly wasted, got a bigger push than almost any other talent not named Orton or Cena during the height of that gimmick.
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Another loser, nothing to see here.
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This isn't a big deal. Only a few guys get a big push each year. Cena, as the face of the company, had some say in who got pushed and who didn't. All that means is over the years he earned the respect of management (aka Vince) and his opinions were, to a degree, listened to.

This is no different than any of the other top stars in the history of professional wrestling.
Obviously the people that Cena had negative opinions about are gonna be angry.

Cena doesn't have the power to push or bury anybody by himself. He can suggest things. And his suggestions carry more weight than, say, Tyler Reks.

Earlier this year it appeared that Cena tried to get behind Zack Ryder. And management agreed and gave Ryder a mild push with some prominent angles. And then WWE decided it wasn't working and Ryder went back to being a jobber.

This just isn't a big deal. Not everybody can get a major push.

Cena isn't a writer. He isn't part of the management that approves the writing. He's a guy who's opinions about the business carry some weight within WWE because he's the face of the company and the most successful pro wrestler in the past decade. In the past 10 years, no one has main evented more PPVs, or more Raws, or sold more tickets, or more merchandise than Cena. It's understandable that his opinions would carry some weight. Doesn't mean he's right, of course.

Every year a few guys get pushed. And most of the roster doesn't. That's just life. I'm sure it sucks to be on the roster and never get the push you think you deserve.
Except he didn't. Ryder had some legitimate momentum at the time with his internet show and Cena latched on to him like a damn parasite he's always been. One of the former writers recently in his interview with pwtorch, mentioned that Ryder's push and Daniel Bryan's MITB 2011 push was all Vince Mcmahon. Vince apparently saw some potential in Zack Ryder as a merchandise mover and gave him a righful push. John Cena as usual used the poor guy to get cheers, sucked up all of his momentum and sent him back to the lower card limbo. RAW has been three hours for the past few months and yet Ryder barely gets any tv time. Where is his saviour Cena now?

And don't kid yourself with "Cena earned Vince's respect" crap. Cena has been the top guy for years and with rest of the top stars retiring or becoming part timers, it has only made him more powerful political force backstage. He can get things done.

Triple H and The Undertaker have made more money for the company than Cena in the past ten years btw.
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Please. Get the fuck out off YOUR high horse. Your arguing just for the sake of arguing

And I'm going to reiterate. Does them having less talent REALLY make it right that Cena can hold them down? Fucking please. Did anyone think that Rocky Maivia or "Stunning" Steve Austin were going to make it when they first broke in? They didn't show anything special, so I guess it's right for people to just shove them down the card because they wouldn't have made it with they're current gimmicks anyway. Jesus.

Kenny Dykstra, Michael Tarver and Tyler Reks are in the same category. They might have gone on to job the fuck out, or become huge stars. We'll never know. But it doesn't make it fucking right to automatically assume that they will be mid carders forever and push them down the card on that merit.

And what about great talents like Riley and Barrett? Two guys who had everything, and then mid on, Cena kills Barrett in 2010 which he still isn't able to recover from, and Riley, who admitted on twitter that Cena killed his push he was getting mid 2011.
How am I on my high horse?

What evidence is there really out there that Cena really held down any of these people? Other then there word which is tainted with personal bias against him by a bitter ex-employee.

Those guys were never going to become stars anyway and you want to know why? Because they were all buy products of todays fucked up corporate era in the WWE. None of them really learned the business the right way and they paid the price for it.

Wade Barrett is one of the only guys the WWE has really fucked up on as far as pushes goes.I'll give you that.
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Just another reason why I hate Cena.
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