Why do people here consider Orton as a failure?
Can someone please explain this for me? I've read a couple of threads here for the past few days and there are a number of people putting Punk's whole career over Orton's career. They say his heel run is better than Orton's viper heel run, that Orton is a failed face. Can someone expound this further?
Some of you may be completely delusional right now. I'm not sure if you people remembered, but Orton was very over when he was a heel in 2007-2009. It's to the extent of him being cheered at by smarks and even casuals. I've heard someone comment this on a thread, and someone replied by saying "Punk is not being cheered at as a heel because he's a good enough heel to put heat over pop, he stops the pop by insulting the crowd" <--- Orton does that too, but it just doesn't work. In my opinion, Orton's heel run was even more vicious than Punk's right now. What was the best heat Punk's ever done as a heel? Want respect? Try to bring us in his straightedge society? Cheap pops like trying to revive a dead guy? Don't get me wrong, I am a Punk fan, but some of his fans just like kissing his ass to the point that they praise his current heel run even though it's not really that successful yet in giving him full heat.
The most bashed upon aspect of Orton is his current face run. Some say he has zero mic skills when in fact, he actually does have mic skills. He's actually alright in mic even in the promos he do right now. The problem is not with his ability to talk, it's with his promos. Don't you people understand that? He's not writing the scripts. Punk is not writing his scripts as well. Punk's promos consist of different various storylines. What promos do Orton have? For the past year, nothing. How the hell did this Del Rio-Orton feud start? No airtime was given for more promos. So what the hell does Orton have to talk about then? There is a reason why you people bash on his mic skills, so try to dig in deeper to that.
On the other hand, Punk's whole title run has been utter shit. No, don't you smarks tell me it's been a good run, because it was utter shit honestly. To be honest, the only time i've actually watched after Punk's promos was when he did the pipebombs and some of his current heel run. In fact, his current heel run's promos weren't as good as Orton's viper ones. Hell, Orton's 06-07 legend killer days were more entertaining than this heel run. It doesn't revolve around some shit like respect for 3 fucking months. Some of the stuff that Cena's shit promos are actually right, by the end of the day Punk will mostly be known for his Summer of Punk days. I do look after Punk's matches, but his promos these days aren't really worth watching.
My point is, I believe Orton's runs were better than what Punk's had recently, overall. I admit that Orton isn't over Punk right now, but I believe 08-10 Orton is bigger than 11-12 Punk. He's been established more than Punk is right now. Let's face it, He is more well known worldwide than Punk. Orton's face run sucks right now, but it's nothing about Orton's abilities to deliver promos. If Punk has been given the same treatment, no buildup to feuds whatsoever, I believe you people would say the same about him. To other wrestlers too, if you have no mic time or proper storylines, you'll probably be deprived of mic skills.