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Old 11-17-2012, 06:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I think it was due to all the controversy that had happen in the attitude era when kids were imitating wrestling moves. Remember that 12 year old kid who was performing wrestling moves on a 7 year old and killed her? Even though WWE wasn't held responsible, it did get a lot of bad press. Trust me, loads of kids would imitate moves and soon as something bad happen.. The parents are off suing the WWE.
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:48 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Considering the Nfl has just donated 30 million to concussion studies I would say the chances of the wwe allowing brutal shit again is slim

What is important though is that the wwe and ecw etc have sown a lot of seeds with all the stuff that went on in the nineties

And thats the key. the effects of these eras arent felt until decades after.

What with a lot of wrestlers dying now because of all the crazy drugs/steroids they took in the eighties.

A lot of wrestlers won't experience the physical affects of all those chair shots in the nineties until decades after. In 2020/2030 they'll probably find that there's a large amount of pro wrestlers with some pretty serious physical issues caused by the attitude era and the wwe will be responsible

They may have squirmed out of the steroid abuse scandal but they won't be able to squirm out of the advancements in medical knowledge that ties together what people were doing in the ring in the nineties and their present physical illnesses
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:12 AM   #13 (permalink)
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There two easy things I can think that WWE can do to make the product more edgy and better, bring back the cruiserweight title for smackdown and some high flyers, bring back the hardcore title for raw.
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Old 11-17-2012, 07:13 AM   #14 (permalink)
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WWE has gone soft in matches because they do not want their wrestlers to turn into Chris Benoit and murder their family.

They're doing this to keep their wrestlers healthy. However storyline wise they should be a bit attitude era wise to keep the audience watching.

People don't watch wwe for their wrestling now a days. They watch it for their storylines. They want these wrestlers to be able to tell a story that will keep them watching. Otherwise we become boring of this stale product and we start giving our opinion base of what we're experiencing. (Cena is an example of this)

But yeah the story telling in WWE needs a major overhaul. but it won't happen due to the fan base they cater to.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:07 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I would rather eat dirt than watch hardcore wrestling. A little over-the-top violence is like a little cayenne pepper. A lot of either drowns out the flavor of anything else on the program. And, besides that, I'd prefer we had performers who could enjoy their life after wrestling instead of concussion related degenerative conditions, heart attacks due to steroids and painkillers, crippling injuries. While he is the cranky old man of the wrestling world, Jim Cornette is 100% right.

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Old 11-17-2012, 08:48 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Default Re: Yeah WWE has gone soft but is it TOO soft?

This has ZERO to do with hardcore matches, WCW killed WWF for a while with a more mature product and they were PG.

If you see poop jokes on tv and hornswoggle jumping into magic holes, it isn't because of the PG rating... it's because of the stupid soap opera writers vince hired.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:51 AM   #17 (permalink)
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This has ZERO to do with hardcore matches, WCW killed WWF for a while with a more mature product and they were PG.
When WCW was good, it was excellent - and it was because of the diversity of entertainment. They hired a whole slew of luchadores and Japanese wrestlers, smaller mat technicians and high-flyers to work together. Not just one or two who don't mesh well with anyone else. They had comedy acts and dancing gimmicks. They had serious, dramatic storylines. They had big, unstoppable monsters. You could take your pick.

Then the NWO wore out its welcome, and goddamn Vince Russo ruined everything else.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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When WCW was good, it was excellent - and it was because of the diversity of entertainment. They hired a whole slew of luchadores and Japanese wrestlers, smaller mat technicians and high-flyers to work together. Not just one or two who don't mesh well with anyone else. They had comedy acts and dancing gimmicks. They had serious, dramatic storylines. They had big, unstoppable monsters. You could take your pick.

Then the NWO wore out its welcome, and goddamn Vince Russo ruined everything else.
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WCW also took a crazy amount of RISKS outside the ring. Putting Nitro on during Raw, luchadores, etc, that forced Vince to take some risks by pushing new guys (never the same main event 2-3 months in a row), allowing some over the top antics and things like that.


Vince has taken a lot of risks since WCW died but since what 2009, they haven't done anything that is an immediate attention grabber or worth discussing years from now.


I don't blame it on WWE being PG, I don't blame it on lack of competition. I blame it mostly on the company's fear that doing new things will turn off fans or effect the bottom line. Sometime you gotta shock people into watching the program. Watching wrestling shouldn't be a chore.
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Old 11-17-2012, 09:27 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Default Re: Yeah WWE has gone soft but is it TOO soft?

They need good storylines/characters/product, without that they can make it Rated-R and they'll still get shit for viewers. The writers and creative need to improve...ALOT. Also, TV-13 does bring in some viewers because casuals, they like to see more extreme stuff.
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People will say WWE is "too" soft, but then when Jerry Lawler agrees to having Paul Heyman mock his heart attack people are up in arms saying it "went too far".
I was more annoyed at the hypocrisy of it. Apparently blood, chair shots, people going through tables, profanity and overt sexuality are a no no because someone might get offended, but mocking a guys real life high profile near death experience for some cheap heat? Oh thats just fine.
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