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Old 11-15-2012, 11:30 PM   #31 (permalink)
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WWE has failed at ...properly booking Survivor Series lol. What a clusterF*** that has become!
This Survivor Series is possibly going to be the first one ever that I don't buy since they've been charging UK customers to watch it on Sky Box Office. It's just not appealing to me as something I feel is a 'must see' event at all.

Not meaning to stray off topic too much into another 'which WWE year has been the worst' debate as there's alreay threads for that...but this year, for the first time ever in just over 20 years has been the year when I've really stopped giving a shit about PPVs and feeling like they're not worth my time or money anymore, all thanks to WWE's crappy almost non existent storylines, haphazard booking, random matches thrown onto the card at the last minute and just not much in the way of build or excitement towards them. The rot really set in for me just before No Way Out 2012, which became the first ever WWE PPV on Sky Box Office that I refused to pay for....a combination of crap like a minor Cena/Big Show feud main eventing over the WWE Championship (which itself wasn't involved in an interesting feud) and other bullshit like a pointless Santino vs Ricardo Rodriguez Tuxedo Match being added after it was mentioned on Twitter a couple of days before. Now I'm faced with Survivor Series...which should be one of the biggest PPVs of the year and have something about it that makes me want to see it (last year had The Rock at least) but instead I'm just thinking 'meh' because of the extremely sloppy build and the horribly random rebooking of the card by Vince last week out of nowhere.

Point is, if WWE can't do something to make fans like me want to pay for PPVs...fans like me who carried on watching and remaining optimistic all the way through Diesel's year long title reign and probably the worst time asides from now to be a fan in the mid 1990s, then they've got a serious problem.

What WWE has completely failed at is remembering to entertain the 'core' fanbase that made them as popular as they are in the first place. Instead they've been way too preoccupied with trying to win over a kiddie audience and mainstream approval with political correctness and whoring themselves out to charities, and bringing in money to fund useless ventures like WWE Network (which will likely never get off the ground), WWE Studios (which really just needs to be axed) and Linda McMahon's Senate campaign. And slowly but surely, it's coming back to bite them on the ass. You could see it all over Vince's face when Linda made her losing speech this year.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:23 AM   #32 (permalink)
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^ didn't the main event of punk/ryback/cena feel like it wasn't planned all along. it makes sense, but they seemed to be going a different direction. vince likely thought about how crappy the buy rate would be with punk and ryback in a traditional survivor series match only leaving cena to face probably ziggler and then changed it. now the traditional survivor series match seems pointless and completely lost whatever little juice it had. typical poor long term planning by vince and changing shit on the fly last minute.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:11 AM   #33 (permalink)
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look past segements, brock 2002-2004, triple h 2001-2006ish others such as orton past aswell was so good, stone cold segements, now you have these stupid segements, or not plausable ones, give caesaro a better feud, raw needs to go back to 1 hour, it needs less ppvs , and a better roster, bring in some tna talent when law suit is up, would love see hardy back which apperently he might be, aeries ,only segements ive enjoyed this year is the brock lesnar ones .

wait for him to comeback, and when he does, raw gets interesting, for time being it sucks
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:57 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Their hot and cold, short term, fly off the moment booking really hurts the product. Spontaneity can be good in doses but not every damn week no reason to invest in any talent these days and everything is inconsequential in the long run. I'm" nearly convinced they don't give a fuck anymore because people will still watch.

WWE missed two grand opportunities to create stars in Bryan (during the summer, which would've been the only redeemable thing to come out of that atrocious angle w/Punk) and Ryback (@ Hell in a Cell). The product is just so unlikable right now and the few opportunities they get to actually shake things up in a meaningful manner, they either stick to the status quo or fuck it up altogether. It's ass backwards.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:45 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Story telling. Over the past 2 or 3 months I've been completely turned off by wwe because of this. There isn't a current story that keeps me interested or gives me a reason to watch. So I don't. I DVR and skip most now. I read on here and there seems to be little buzz about anything. Viewership seems to be dropping weekly. I'm not ready to write off the WWE just yet (I guess it's the kid in me). But something needs to change. The goal of any show is to get the audience to be invested in it and to not just simply make a show.. The WWE has failed at this. What can they do? What should they do? I feel like I'm watching the slow death of the WWE...And it's painful to see
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:55 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I wrote this in another thread, but I thought I would share it in here. I to feel there is a lack of story telling in the WWE.

If the WWE had any balls Ryback walks out Survivor Series with the WWE title, and also turns heel in the process. He lays out CM Punk, and Cena. Heyman turns on Punk, and reveals that he has been with Ryback the whole time. Paul explains that since his last client has no further interests in the WWE he needed a new monster, and possibly the nastiest man on the planet The Ryback. Ryback, and Heyman form an alliance. Have both CM Punk, and Cena on the shelf with severe injuries as to make Ryback look like a complete monster. Who is going to stop The Ryback? Everyone wants CM Punk, or Cena vs The Rock, but no one cares to know how much more intense, and unpredictable a match with Ryback vs The Rock is for the WWE title.

The Rock already went over the biggest name in the WWE on the largest stage of them all, and I think it's time The Rock put over The Ryback. Just think about how The Rock was the same guy who put over Brock Lesnar at Summer Slam years back. There is only one man that I can think of in the WWE who gives The Ryback a serious chance, and it's the final thing I feel that really propels him in to main event status, and that's Sheamus. Imagine a solid build between two behemoths? The unstoppable, strong, relentless like build for Ryback. We all know what Sheamus brings to the table.

I am tired of Punk, and Cena wearing the title, and while I don't care for Ryback I do think a heel change could make him more interesting only because he doesn't look like a nice guy. Having Heyman for him on the mic is exactly what got Brock Lesnar over, and I don't see why this would be any different. Ryback vs Sheamus would be a killer match if it were built properly on both sides for both men. You have two monsters battling it out for the most prestigious title in the world of professional wrestling. Granted they aren't the top guys right now, but I think a solid angle could do wonders for both men.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:00 PM   #37 (permalink)
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the fact it is PG sucks.. and I hate it when poeple think TV-14 is just about swearing and blood (it isn't)

it's hard to tell a compelling storyline that that will attract the interest of anyone over the age of 16 that is PG.. there is so little you can do in terms of the story and where it goes and how far it goes and how invested you get in hating the antagonist.

look at shakespeare, that is not PG, he was one of the greatest story tellers of all time.. WWE is a lot like modern shakespeare

also for people who say WWE was PG in the 90s.. WWE almost went bankrupt in the 90s.. if they didn't get a more interesting TV-14 product that was geared towards people over the age of 16 they would have fallen with WCW
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:36 PM   #38 (permalink)
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the fact it is PG sucks.. and I hate it when poeple think TV-14 is just about swearing and blood (it isn't)

it's hard to tell a compelling storyline that that will attract the interest of anyone over the age of 16 that is PG.. there is so little you can do in terms of the story and where it goes and how far it goes and how invested you get in hating the antagonist.

look at shakespeare, that is not PG, he was one of the greatest story tellers of all time.. WWE is a lot like modern shakespeare

also for people who say WWE was PG in the 90s.. WWE almost went bankrupt in the 90s.. if they didn't get a more interesting TV-14 product that was geared towards people over the age of 16 they would have fallen with WCW
There are a ridiculous amount of things wrong with this statement..
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Old 11-17-2012, 12:52 AM   #39 (permalink)
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You know, I really have to say that issues are political and developmental. With a lot of deaths, and questions being raised about practices it isn't like there weren't pressures to change the very things made the attitude and ruthless aggression era's great. So it isn't like some of the changes happened just because of the WWE, we would have to be blind to say the Benoit incident didn't have impact.

Second, I feel that there was this time of no great development. The B list became the WCW A listers following the buy out, and there was countless reigns of those who have paid there dues. Meanwhile our mid-card became generic as hell. A lot of talent they had also sort of up and left! That never helps! This all was combined with the attempt to develop a new company face - John Cena - who got trapped in the era where PG-13 seemed viable.

Politics + Development have left them weak.
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Old 11-17-2012, 01:53 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I won't say WWF(e) is dying...but the way they are alive is not less than slow death.
Their focus is almost completely on kids.Otherwise i don't know how a real wrestling fan can tune 3hrs on RAW + get in touch with SD,ME,SMS with no background feuds and same faces being champion over and over.
They brag completely about their social media spot every week, not thinking about the product.
But we can't blame them. They are (yet) the sole leaders of wrestling entertainment.Whatever they show, we shall watch...some of us because we have our childhood memories with it...some with hope...others simply because of kids!!!!
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