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Old 11-14-2012, 07:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How would you make faces likeable again? (create/recreate a top babyface)

Partly inspired by a particularly terrible Raw some time ago (the one where Punk got pinned by Kane with GM AJ as guest ref), it’s becoming apparent that WWE are churning out some run-of-the-mill and plain ol’ unlikeable babyface characters. So I ask you, members of the IWC, to throw some ideas out there and create a good face character or even revamp a current face character that you think will make him/her more appealing.

Try to be impartial with this even in regards to performers/characters you can’t currently stand. You want to be entertained of course so try and think of ways these people can have their strengths accentuated and weaknesses hidden from your sight. And please, no smartarse shots on the guys you do hate in every conceivable way. If you really can’t see anything in there then don’t bother with the question.

Then again, perhaps I’m falling into the trap of IWC’s renowned hyperbole and doomsday mentality. Is there any reason to be concerned about this? Obviously a lot of older fans have acquired different tastes over the years and have steadily become more jaded as WWE moves onto another generation of nave youth to cater towards. Should the company just be content with the fact a lot of their top acts have a good following at the moment without being groundbreaking?

It'll also be interesting to get peoples thoughts on the current babyface formula in today's climate. Is it something that needs to be renewed from top to bottom? This would include revisiting the patented face comeback routine in a wrestling match that gets guys like Cena pasted regularly from a lot of casuals for his ‘predictability’ (despite him also being highly lauded by many in the know-how for doing this routine well, ironically). Do you think that there’s some innovation needed for what are considered fundamentals in WWE's 'style' of working, or just a matter of continuing to keep things keeping on and hope they strike it lucky with that one talent who can do their bit well?
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Jeff Hardy was the last 'hugely popular' babyface but that didn't work out well.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I want to see heroes I can sympathize with. I want to see them struggle, so when they get to the top it's meaningful. Faces should be chasing titles and clashing with smart, strong heels. Cowardly lion comedy heels are the order of the day - so how are the heroes supposed to impress us by beating them? And what does it mean if the hero goes over clean every time? You have to mix it up, make it unpredictable.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:06 AM   #6 (permalink)
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stop booking heels as smark wank material e.g. Cm Punk

Punk should never have been allowed to cut that promo in 2011 because he was a heel
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd much prefer Cena if he was less of an "i love the fans" squeeky clean ass kisser and more of a ruthless antihero thug.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
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To have faces you want to root for, you need to have dominant heels. WWE has none of these at the moment. You want the good guy to get revenge on the bad guy.

Another thing is to NOT give every top face the same smiling, joking, pandering-to-the-crowd personality and give him some edge (~lol not making fun of dead people~). Not every face has to be a comedian, just someone who abides by the rules of decency, tact and common sense while at the same time wanting to kick ass.

It's so fucking basic but of course the WWE can't grasp this.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Put them in a feud with a great heel. Sadly I feel that there are no great heels at the moment.
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They have a golden opportunity to do this with The Miz. One thing the WWE must do is not alter his personality one iota - leave him be the cocky, brash, in-your-face jock who riles up all the heels. He's an excellent talker so could get some Jericho like reactions if played right.
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