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Re: Is being the biggest draw a good enough reason to be considered the goat?

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The goal of any wrestling promoter is to make money. If one guy is drawing more money then the rest that puts him on the top level. The greatest of all time is the superstar that has been the biggest draw in professional wrestling. It's Hulk Hogan.
You haven't even begun to address the topic. A film company's objective is also to make money; does that also mean that Tom Cruise is the greatest actor in the history of film?


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Well, you're implying that Bret Hart is a better wrestler than Steve Austin
1.Bret is a better in-ring performer than Austin.I found Bret boring but that can't deny Bret was that damn good.

Austin was a better entertainer.

In that sense,Austin is like Cruise.More entertaining.More money.

Bret is like De Niro.Great actor/wrestler but definetly not a draw like Cruise.
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lol no he does not.
Nice post with lots of details/facts, it certainly made me change my opinion about Cm Punk.

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Re: is being the biggest draw a good enough reason to be considered the goat ?

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1.Bret is a better in-ring performer than Austin.I found Bret boring but that can't deny Bret was that damn good.
So you found Bret Hart matches boring, and you say Steve Austin is more entertaining. So why are you so afraid to say that Austin was better at pro wrestling?

And on what planet is Tom Cruise more entertaining than Robert freaking Deniro? You've got this weird dichotomy of "better" and "more entertaining", when the two should be, in the entertainment industry, exactly the same thing.


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The goal of any wrestling promoter is to make money. If one guy is drawing more money then the rest that puts him on the top level. The greatest of all time is the superstar that has been the biggest draw in professional wrestling. It's Hulk Hogan.
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You haven't even begun to address the topic. A film company's objective is also to make money; does that also mean that Tom Cruise is the greatest actor in the history of film?
Greatest in terms of commercial success.Tom Cruise opening collections would destroy Pacino entire movie earnings.As a leading actor,Cruise hasn't had a flop since Top Gun.His three flops are Lion of Lambs,Magnolia and Rock of Ages didn't have him as leading actor
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Greatest in terms of commercial success.Tom Cruise opening collections would destroy Pacino entire movie earnings.As a leading actor,Cruise hasn't had a flop since Top Gun.His three flops are Lion of Lambs,Magnolia and Rock of Ages didn't have him as leading actor
Fine, then just put it that way. If you think Tom Cruise is a better actor than Marlon Brando, just come out and say it. A little more honesty, and a little less ambiguity. Please.


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Nice post with lots of details/facts, it certainly made me change my opinion about Cm Punk.
Wasn't supposed to. Just stating my opinion on a something I thought was a ridiculous statement. You telling me the same sloppy CM Punk with the horrid elbow drop & moonsault is just as good as greats like Benoit in-ring? Outside of his shoot last year what other memorable promos has CM Punk had? Good in-ring and good on the mic but not even close to the all-time greats in either category.

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Re: Is being the biggest draw a good enough reason to be considered the goat?

Drawing ability is the only objective criteria by which you can judge a wrestler.
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Re: Is being the biggest draw a good enough reason to be considered the goat?

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again this talk of numbers/ratings, who cares? Punk matches the ability of the greatest mic workers/wrestlers of all time, but because of this stupid rating thing every week, people refuse to even praise him. This is just terrible.
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lol no he does not.
he kind of does, actually.

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Drawing ability is the only objective criteria by which you can judge a wrestler.
Who cares about objective criteria in art?


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