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Old 10-25-2012, 08:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default The greatest wrestler on the planet is....

Is this guy and is not in the WWE:

Hiroshi Tanahashi


I don't watch wrestling much anymore but did just watch his 5 star match with Minoru Suzuki. Why can't the WWE produce more sport like matches and less gimmicks or story based matches? Discuss.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You could make a decent argument for Danielson.

And on the gimmick matches, a HIAC match between lesnar and Undertaker is always going to outdraw a 60 minute Ironman match between Bryan and Punk.
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You could make a decent argument for Danielson.

And on the gimmick matches, a HIAC match between lesnar and Undertaker is always going to outdraw a 60 minute Ironman match between Bryan and Punk.

It's true Danielson is one of the best technical wrestlers of all time, but as of recent his matches have been really lackluster. Same with Punk. I may not watch raw week to week anymore, but I try to always watch their matches. They could definitely be better.
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I take it he's a New Japan wrassler yeah? I've been meaning to check out more NJPW matches from the last few years including the present day after watching all the classics.
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It's true Danielson is one of the best technical wrestlers of all time, but as of recent his matches have been really lackluster. Same with Punk. I may not watch raw week to week anymore, but I try to always watch their matches. They could definitely be better.
A lot of that is the limitations of WWE. I think outside of that, Bryan is my pick for the best in the world right now.
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Tanahashi isn't even the best wrestler in his company, let alone the world. I'm not even a big New Japan fan but I could probably name at least 5 wrestlers on their roster better than he is. Christ he wasn't even the reason the match turned out as well as it did, Suzuki put in arguably his career performance and contributed far more towards the match. I'm not incinuating Tanahshi was shite or anything, but Suzuki's performance was good enough that Tanahashi really wasn't forced to do much outside of bump and build to his comeback: which is probably for the better because I don't think he's very good when forced to do more than that.

Anyways you can't really try and expect WWE to change their style, when it represents the US style of wrestling which has always existed. You're not going to get many Puro esque matches in WWE aside from when Benoit, Finlay and Regal wrestled, and even then that was far closer to a European style match than Puro. US wrestling is all about the characters, a more relaxed style of wrestling with a greater importance placed on what you do in between the moves, i.e reacting to a crowd, selling a match with your facial expressions and communicating your emotions to the crowd etc. Its been that way whether you're an NWA fan, a WWWF fan in the Backlund era, a Mid South/Memphis fan or even in the Attitude Era. Sure different territories and companies altered their style so the NWA style differed from your Hogan matches, but there were still a lot of similarities in terms of the layout and structure behind a match, its just what has worked for US wrestling.

The likes of Japan and Britain traditionally have more pure contests with a greater emphasis on the striking and wrestling aspect, rather than the characters who are wrestling. They treat it more as a legit sport of athleticism and technique compared to America.
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Daniel Bryan:

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Best connect with the crowd
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Why can't the WWE produce more sport like matches and less gimmicks or story based matches? Discuss.
Not going to happen as people are used to the soap opera style and it is just not going to be as marketable in america and other countries around the world that have not got a big wrestling scene.
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Why can't the WWE produce more sport like matches and less gimmicks or story based matches? Discuss.
...Because that would send fans packing in droves. No one would want to watch that, and that is why barely anyone cares about Japanese wrestling.
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...Because that would send fans packing in droves. No one would want to watch that, and that is why barely anyone cares about Japanese wrestling.
I point and laugh at people like you.
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